Chat Highlights From 01/30/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:19 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:23 am] Ed : good morning
[06:24 am] Brent : Good morning
[06:27 am] Kris : welcome to the room ken61smith
[06:28 am] Kris : 2 minutes
[06:30 am] Kris : watching WYNN for a long
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching FSL drop for bottom
[06:31 am] Kris : NFLX long half
[06:31 am] Mitch K: also watching FOSL drop as well as FSL
[06:31 am] Mitch K: looking for a bounce on this first drop in LNKD
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching for bottom to buy in SHLD
[06:32 am] Kris : BIDU short half
[06:32 am] Kris : CREE short half
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching CIB to short soon
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching HBHC for top to short, looking for 32.75+
[06:33 am] Kris : out half NFLX long
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching for a top in EMN to short
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching WWW drop for bottom to buy, might be a dead one, not sure
[06:34 am] Kris : GMCR long
[06:34 am] Kris : WPRT short half
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching ANN for top to short
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching CVD for top, patient
[06:35 am] Kris : out half BIDU short
[06:35 am] Kris : POT long half
[06:35 am] Mitch K: CIB toppy
[06:35 am] Mitch K: consider reducing FOSL if long
[06:35 am] Mitch K: looking for new lows on SHLD short
[06:36 am] Kris : out half GMCR long
[06:36 am] Kris : SNDK short half
[06:36 am] Kris : watching SINA for a long
[06:36 am] Mitch K: consider reducing 1/3rd of FSL if long, remember low priced stock moved 4% off bottom already
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching ACH for bottom to buy, patient
[06:37 am] Kris : will look to enter RENN long on a pullback
[06:37 am] Kris : will stay with a small position on RENN
[06:37 am] Mitch K: that LNKD was just a quick high odds pop, now played out
[06:38 am] Kris : JCP long half
[06:39 am] Kris : FSLR long half
[06:39 am] Kris : looking for a dead cat bounce in CREE, then new lod[06:40 am] Kris : out half POT long
[06:41 am] Kris : JAZZ long half
[06:41 am] Mitch K: FSLR top
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching ROK for top to short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching to see if HBHC makes low below open, 32.08
[06:42 am] Kris : out half JAZZ long
[06:42 am] Kris : YOKU long half
[06:42 am] Mitch K: BVSN long swing trade entry today, smaller position
[06:42 am] Mitch K: FSLR bounce looks over
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching for top in BVSN
[06:43 am] Kris : CREE bounce weak
[06:43 am] Mitch K: ACH bounce dead
[06:43 am] Mitch K: FSL bounce over
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching JAZZ for top
[06:43 am] Mitch K: WATCHING YOKU jump
[06:44 am] Kris : out another 1/4 JAZZ long
[06:44 am] Mitch K: FOSL bounce over
[06:44 am] Mitch K: JCP top to short here
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching SNCR for bottom to buy
[06:45 am] Kris : BIDU new lod[06:45 am] Kris : out another 1/4 BIDU short
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching TSL for top, more danger with this, low priced
[06:46 am] Kris : out half CREE short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: ALK toppy
[06:46 am] Mitch K: new low on HBHC, hold short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: TOK toppy
[06:47 am] Kris : long second half YOKU
[06:47 am] Kris : out another 1/4 CREE short
[06:48 am] Kris : getting ready to add second half JCP long soon
[06:48 am] Kris : if you were able to get RENN on the pullback, look to take some profit here coming into 6.00
[06:49 am] Kris : SPY selling into lod support
[06:50 am] Kris : out all CREE short
[06:51 am] Kris : RENN is the little engine that could
[06:51 am] Kris : watching FMCN for a long
[06:52 am] Kris : out half YOKU long
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching FSLR if makes low below 44.50, then look out below
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching PPO for bottom
[06:53 am] Kris : out another 1/4 YOKU long
[06:53 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of HBHC short
[06:53 am] Mitch K: consider covering half or more of CIB, then look for 2nd helping short later
[06:54 am] Mitch K: CVD near opening price, much lower and drops faster
[06:54 am] Mitch K: monitoring PMC for a short, slow motion mover
[06:55 am] Mitch K: too late to enter CVD short
[06:56 am] Kris : watching NOV for a long, needs time to ripen
[06:56 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of FSLR if short
[06:56 am] Mitch K: more downside for UAL
[06:57 am] Kris : NRGY starting to look interesting
[06:57 am] Mitch K: consider covering 1/3rd of ROK if short
[06:57 am] Mitch K: consider covering half or more of JAZZ if short
[06:57 am] Mitch K: watching drop in YPF
[06:58 am] Kris : NFLX new hod[06:58 am] Mitch K: 2nd bounce on WWW, watching for top to short
[06:58 am] Mitch K: CIB 2nd helping short soon, watching to see if new highs
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider covering HBHC short
[06:58 am] Mitch K: if new highs then wait longer before 2ndhelping short
[07:02 am] Kris : CIB long half
[07:03 am] Kris : watching RENN for another long
[07:04 am] Kris : SINA is a wild child
[07:05 am] Kris : AMZN new lod[07:07 am] Kris : watching CTRP for a long
[07:07 am] Mitch K: UAL finally breaking down
[07:09 am] Mitch K: consider covering FSLR short and watch for long bounce soon
[07:11 am] Kris : SPY testing lod[07:11 am] Kris : watching AMZN for a long soon
[07:13 am] Mitch K: CIB 2nd short soon
[07:16 am] Mitch K: consider covering UAL
[07:17 am] Kris : watching ZAGG for a long
[07:21 am] Ed : NFLX still strong
[07:21 am] Mitch K: monitoring GSVC, only monitoring
[07:21 am] Mitch K: SBSA spiking
[07:22 am] Kris : SPY coming into trendline resistance
[07:25 am] Kris : CREE you dirty dog
[07:25 am] Kris : if we get another new lod in the SPY we could see a good move to the downside
[07:26 am] Kris : out half CIB long
[07:26 am] Mitch K: consider covering CVD if short
[07:27 am] Kris : out all CIB long
[07:28 am] Mitch K: watching JAZZ drop
[07:44 am] Mitch K: I'd like to go over some charts, i think it's quiet enough to do that now
[07:44 am] Mitch K: if a stock idea comes along, we may be distracted
[07:45 am] Mitch K: first of all i see that a lot of you guys are still using a website to do day trading or scalping and stop doing that
[07:46 am] Mitch K: and none of those are given to you from a large brokerage website
[07:46 am] Mitch K: you can do that for swing trades but you are going to have a hard time making money scalping using any website. with these day trading techniques you need to be fast, nimble and low cost
[07:47 am] Mitch K: why do i know that? I can see the bulk of your orders are coming in delayed, like 45 seconds to 1 min later
[07:48 am] Mitch K: so either a lot of you are using website or your ability to make an order is slow
[07:48 am] Mitch K: when i say the word nimble, that means you have to be able to make an order, change an order, move price, get executed, and if you are more advance and ready for 2nd 3rd or 4th open position at same time, this is critical you are proficient with keyboard commands, mouse, correct platform, etc[07:49 am] Mitch K: go ahead and reply
[07:49 am] Mitch K: you can see most of these ideas work over the following 10-20-30 minutes correct.? i mean most of them do what we expect them to do, would you agree?
[07:50 am] Mitch K: at least that's my observation
[07:50 am] Mitch K: this isn't an ego trip, it is just an observation
[07:51 am] Mitch K: if you have observed that a technique works, consistently, then what you have to do is say to yourself, "Self, most of these work because I've seen them work most every day for XX number of days, and I want to try some of these ideas."
[07:52 am] Mitch K: so the biggest problem for 99% of us is to manage our thoughts, expectations, emotions, greed, fear, etc. right
[07:53 am] Mitch K: negative thoughts, distractions, your own flaws, reasons why you trade, reasons why you do anything, all show up in this business. the good, the bad and the ugly
[07:54 am] Mitch K: and stop doing that
[07:54 am] Mitch K: so don't do that
[07:54 am] Mitch K: so the worst thing you can do is get big in one idea because you feel or say "I missed that one. oh, darn, that one was good and these other guys in the TR (trading Room got it). I am going to really load up on the next idea"
[07:55 am] Mitch K: and also get rid of the "I am going to make up for that loss mentality"
[07:55 am] Mitch K: so let's make a deal right now, shake hands, let's not do these things.
[07:55 am] Mitch K: you guys all agree or is it just me that has done that before
[07:56 am] Mitch K: first one, ALK
[07:56 am] Mitch K: now let's go through some charts today
[07:56 am] Mitch K: we are talking about the pattern, not specifically a stock, just the pattern will be same on about 5-6 of these stocks
[07:57 am] Mitch K: this opened down maybe 60-70 cents, climbed up
[07:58 am] Mitch K: it paused, i posted a short idea i think, let me find what time. ok 9:46 eastern time
[07:58 am] Mitch K: said ALK toppy
[07:59 am] Mitch K: that's why i mentioned earlier when i started this lesson you must have the right platform or you won't make money on this
[07:59 am] Mitch K: was early in the session, was looking for a quick short, it gave about 50-55 cents on the short side quickly and i leave.
[08:00 am] Mitch K: let me find the other 5 stocks i saw that i posted here that did same thing
[08:01 am] Mitch K: on that ALK, fyi, i don't really care for airline stocks that much but i saw UAL gave same pattern as well
[08:02 am] Mitch K: just for you newer people to this Trading Room or new to day trading
[08:03 am] Mitch K: i don't care and you should not care about what the stock is, what the company does, we are only in these for 10-20-30 minutes
[08:04 am] Mitch K: it's the pattern that we care about because patterns tell you what other investors are doing and basically you are taking money from other people
[08:04 am] Mitch K: just a repeat, this is a closed system, you win and someone else loses
[08:04 am] Mitch K: or less educated than you will be
[08:04 am] Mitch K: other investors, traders, who are less educated than you
[08:05 am] Mitch K: that's about 98% correct, unless some company issues more shares or a new IPO, then that adds to total market cap
[08:06 am] Ed : advanced trade
[08:06 am] Ed : CRIS moving
[08:07 am] Mitch K: next stock, ROK
[08:07 am] Mitch K: so you see UAL same pattern right? opens down, climbs up into positive and i see UAL turn over = short. UAL took longer and i posted that word UAL finally turning over. gave 40-45 cents potential, 2%, that's good. took long and i was losing patience
[08:08 am] Mitch K: same pattern i saw. i posted. yes lower vol but same pattern,
[08:09 am] Ed : cover 1/4 short CRIS
[08:09 am] Ed : covering 1/2 short CRIS
[08:09 am] Ed : out all CRIS
[08:09 am] Mitch K: 30-35 cents on the short, 1.4% profit.
[08:09 am] Mitch K: ANN was similar, barely got into positive and failed, looking for short on that
[08:09 am] Mitch K: so that was 60 cents, almost 1% on ROK short.
[08:10 am] Mitch K: nice one Eddie Money
[08:10 am] Ed : sorry too disturb teaching
[08:10 am] Mitch K: no prob Eddie, keep stock ideas flowing, we teach in between stock ideas. ideas have priority
[08:11 am] Mitch K: FSLR was another one, same pattern
[08:12 am] Mitch K: HBHC was similar pattern although didn't start negative at opening but similar
[08:13 am] Mitch K: CVD was similar, not negative though at opening but basically same pattern
[08:13 am] Mitch K: EMN was another,
[08:14 am] Mitch K: you get idea on that pattern
[08:15 am] Mitch K: now something like WYNN, opened down and went further down. i think open was around 116.40, dropped 4+ points more, then bounced. that's a different pattern, WYNN was a buy the bottom, not same as first 5 stocks we talked about
[08:17 am] Mitch K: now something like PMC, totally different pattern, not same logic or approach as first 5
[08:18 am] Mitch K: don't have time and energy to explain all patterns, just trying to focus on this first one
[08:21 am] Mitch K: i did not trade PMC but i saw it too late.
[08:21 am] Mitch K: YOKU was another one i saw, don't think i posted
[08:23 am] Mitch K: now CIB was strong from the opening, had one decent pullback and i thought it was strong, mentioned to cover around the time it was 59.25-59.30 and to monitor 2nd helping short but watch if new high
[08:23 am] Mitch K: that isn't same pattern as first 5, CIB was strong
[08:23 am] Mitch K: then Kris took it long
[08:24 am] Mitch K: so just try to get good at one aspect of trading. there are many many ways to make money. just get good at one and master it. then learn another technique.
[08:25 am] Mitch K: last thing i will say is it is hard to be successful if and when you are in a panicky state of mind, like "I got to make this work or I die with my family in 30 days"
[08:27 am] Kris : or until you get married
[08:27 am] Mitch K: keep studying, read, review charts,
[08:27 am] Mitch K: oh good one
[08:27 am] Mitch K: this is a process, a longer term process that can take 6 months, 12, maybe even 18 months. but what do you get in return for the effort? you have something solid, until you have a stroke or get Alzheimer's
[08:28 am] Mitch K: you can be very very profitable if you do it the right way
[08:30 am] Ed : too late to buy but REGN breaking out
[08:30 am] Mitch K: we want you to be successful, to improve your life and lifestyle but you have to do your part and that is to be a great student. Every person I know that has become successful became a good student.
[08:31 am] Ed : has consolidation @ 87
[08:31 am] Mitch K: and hey, if you are emotional, that's normal. What you are trying to do is have your intellect be stronger than your emotions and the only way you can do that is to study, practice in a virtual trading platform like Ninja Trader, evaluate your progress, restudy technique again, review trades and results on the
[08:32 am] Mitch K: as you understand a technique and get proficient, your confidence goes up with your proficiency and your emotions go down. Remember, ok to be emotional but intellect must be stronger than emotions.
[08:34 am] Mitch K: you don't have to lose a lot of money learning. if you insist on starting trading with real money before you are proficient, then give money to your church first, at least you do some good. or give money to someone to hold on to it first, providing they will give it back
[08:41 am] Ed : selling 1/2 long REGN
[08:41 am] Ed : stop 1/2 @ 87.069 b/e[08:54 am] Ed : selling 1/4 long REGN
[08:57 am] Ed : moving stop last 1/4 REGN to 87.49
[09:23 am] Kris : nice flag on CIB
[10:12 am] Ed : will watch QCOR around 33.70ish for potential long, although trend is down
[10:24 am] Brent : SPY at hod[10:28 am] Ed : watching YPF
[10:44 am] Ed : covering all YPF short
[10:59 am] Ed : if anyone got YPF long would reduce
[11:04 am] Ed : and trail last portion if you're still long
[11:04 am] Ed : would reduce more YPF long
[11:46 am] Brent : DANG moving
[12:21 pm] Kris : ENDP not quite enough money for me for a long trade
[12:21 pm] Kris : nice looking setup but you have to be careful of the scaling.
[12:26 pm] Kris : ENDP starting to look more appetizing
[12:26 pm] Kris : remember it's late in the day
[12:26 pm] Kris : support at 36.00
[12:27 pm] Kris : might not get good follow through volume on the bounce so I would take a smaller position if you trade it.
[12:45 pm] Kris : For the new people, did you guys see where we got 36.00 support on ENDP?
[12:49 pm] Kris : SPY looking to stay strong, will probably close near the hod barring late news.
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evening
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: you guys have a good day?
[01:00 pm] Brent : Have a great night, see you in the morning
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: you have to be aggressive and decisive in that first hour. be ready, wake up, eat before
[01:01 pm] Kris : good night everyone. great job today. see you tomorrow.
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: it's basically like salmon fishing, the main bite is in the morning, early. and then it cools off
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: it's just the nature of day trading stocks
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: later guys and gals
[06:20 am] mhaus : watching REGN
[06:22 am] mhaus : REGN, RCL and PMC
[06:22 am] joeytsa : fitch puts australia banks on review for possible downgrade
[06:22 am] jolliffboy : gm all....please pray for NRGY to go back up to 19.00 today
[06:23 am] eyes : are you long
[06:23 am] joeytsa : moody's warns japan's fiscal target delay is credit negative
[06:24 am] jolliffboy : eyes...yes I am in at 18.90 long
[06:24 am] rusty : am ss AMLN
[06:25 am] joeytsa : AMLN : fda approval
[06:27 am] ken61smith : i'm a newby trying to learn the lingo
[06:27 am] joeytsa : the ES touched below 1300 earlier, back up a little
[06:27 am] joeytsa : welcom ken61
[06:27 am] apple : hey ken
[06:28 am] khall : hi ken
[06:28 am] joeytsa : 1st 30 minutes can be hectic, depends on the day
[06:28 am] garyb : possible market reversal in the making.....I hope!
[06:30 am] joeytsa : CELG might be a player today, MNST dropping a bit
[06:30 am] sfarrill : TNB
[06:32 am] joeytsa : BIDU down about $1.50
[06:33 am] shark : watching AGQ
[06:36 am] shark : AGQ long at 59.92
[06:36 am] shark : GLD moving up too
[06:36 am] joeytsa : NFLX at prev cl
[06:37 am] rusty : GMCR radar
[06:38 am] shark : RENN -moving up on Facebook IPO story
[06:38 am] joeytsa : FFIV consolidating, indis near bottom
[06:39 am] skydiver : out 1/2 S SNKD 45.65
[06:40 am] joeytsa : SINA nice push off bottom
[06:40 am] apple : nice on SINA
[06:40 am] skydiver : yes - very nice on SINA
[06:41 am] joeytsa : see if NFLX loses support here or not
[06:42 am] shark : CMG hod -yesterday close
[06:42 am] rusty : Piper says AMLN is a takeover target 33
[06:42 am] rusty : GS says AMLN is a sell, target 11
[06:43 am] joeytsa : JAZZ was nice kris[06:43 am] rusty : CIGX hod[06:49 am] shark : GLD lod[06:49 am] garyb : TZA ripping higher
[06:52 am] shark : Kohlberg Kravis Roberts 13D filing out after the close on Friday disclosing a 19.2% stake JAZZ
[06:52 am] joeytsa : NFLX trying to push higher
[06:52 am] joeytsa : FFIV finally broke down, holding pivot support at the moment
[06:53 am] apple : nice moves on SINA
[06:54 am] rusty : FSLR lod[06:54 am] joeytsa : MNST in a tight range
[06:55 am] shark : AGQ testing hod -above 21min ma now
[06:56 am] joeytsa : LO cons, need a break about 108.80
[06:56 am] shark : NFLX testing hod[06:58 am] apple : SINA finally behaving
[07:00 am] apple : FSLR very good
[07:02 am] skydiver : CROX - take over chatter
[07:04 am] rusty : covered FFIV swing short
[07:04 am] joeytsa : SINA just a beauty..up/down etc[07:04 am] shark : FBR Capital recommends buying a put spread on FOSL buy a February $90/$85 put spread for ~$1.50
[07:04 am] skydiver : yes - make sure you ride SINA on the correct side :)
[07:05 am] shark : never seen that from a brokerage before- FOSL
[07:06 am] joeytsa : AMZN just lost prev low
[07:06 am] joeytsa : watching CRM at perv low also
[07:06 am] rusty : 10/18/2011 FBR Capital New Coverage Market Perform 100.00
[07:06 am] garyb : TZA going up more!
[07:06 am] joeytsa : prev low...consolidating there still
[07:06 am] skydiver : yes joey - been watching CRM -
[07:07 am] apple : that's right sky on SINA...
[07:07 am] joeytsa : CRM: prev low, 5ma,15ma vwap all within 20 cents or so
[07:07 am] rusty : SVVC radar...daily chart...very low volume
[07:07 am] garyb : Joey...I was telling you about TZA....it may be a great swing if market reverses now
[07:07 am] rusty : AMLN hod[07:09 am] joeytsa : gary: i would look to see which market is weakest and play that rev etf..for me
[07:09 am] skydiver : covered FSLR - all out
[07:13 am] joeytsa : AAPL having trouble at prev high
[07:13 am] joeytsa : nice trade sky, just saw your post
[07:15 am] joeytsa : AAPL finally pushed up
[07:16 am] skydiver : can't believe I went Long on SINA 68.05
[07:17 am] joeytsa : why can't you believe it sky?
[07:17 am] skydiver : Not a very good horse rider - especially one that is bucking
[07:18 am] joeytsa : looks like you rode that one past the wire :)
[07:18 am] skydiver : okay out 1/2 of SINA L
[07:18 am] shark : SINA coming back here guys
[07:18 am] shark : AAPL moving higher
[07:18 am] shark : watching ZAGG for a ZIG, Kris?
[07:19 am] shark : AMZN moving higher
[07:19 am] skydiver : moving stop up on SINA at BE
[07:20 am] joeytsa : portugal 10yr yield at a euro lifetime high..fwiw[07:20 am] lightning : watching APKT for a bottom
[07:21 am] joeytsa : not sure how that makes me money, but it is what it is :)
[07:21 am] joeytsa : NFLX another nice mover today
[07:21 am] shark : watching AMZN
[07:22 am] joeytsa : be nice to see it run into that 192+ area and fall apart
[07:23 am] joeytsa : ES trying for 1300 again
[07:24 am] lightning : went long APKT 29.83 (sorry for late post)
[07:25 am] shark : VIX over 20
[07:25 am] apple : sky, are you still in SINA
[07:27 am] skydiver : yes
[07:28 am] apple : good for you
[07:28 am] joeytsa : ken61: how are you holding up?
[07:28 am] rusty : GSVC lod[07:28 am] skydiver : Now I'm all out of SINA aapl - just got out in time
[07:29 am] rusty : JAZZ lod[07:29 am] joeytsa : great timing sky, a few just turned over
[07:29 am] skydiver : had my eyes off of it for a bit aaple - thnx for bringing my eyes back on SINA
[07:29 am] shark : AMZN testing lod[07:30 am] shark : aapl[07:30 am] joeytsa : AMZN didn't even come close to $192 haha[07:30 am] joeytsa : GS downgraded?
[07:33 am] rusty : covered about 1/3 WFM swing short
[07:33 am] joeytsa : finally closed LO
[07:34 am] rusty : bought a few more HGT and will add into weakness
[07:35 am] rusty : have about a 30% position again in HGT
[07:36 am] skydiver : joey - watching CRM?
[07:36 am] joeytsa : you know i am :)
[07:37 am] rusty : BVSN hod[07:37 am] joeytsa : watching it move without me haha[07:37 am] skydiver : NO!!
[07:37 am] rusty : CRM moves like jagger?
[07:37 am] garyb : lol Joey! Missed that train....well there's always another! ;)
[07:37 am] joeytsa : set a lower alert, not an upper one
[07:38 am] joeytsa : lesson learned
[07:38 am] skydiver : out 1/2 L CRM 115.51
[07:38 am] skydiver : moving stop up on CRM
[07:40 am] shark : watching AMZN at 50min ma
[07:41 am] lightning : all out APKT long
[07:44 am] shark : AAPL marching higher
[07:44 am] skydiver : sounds good Mitch
[07:44 am] qwert : awesome mitch[07:44 am] joeytsa : go for it Mitch
[07:44 am] apple : i am ready for my lesson for the day....
[07:47 am] shark : CMG hod[07:48 am] Brent : SPY at hod[07:50 am] skydiver : yes Mitch
[07:50 am] joeytsa : yep
[07:50 am] shark : yes, Mitch!
[07:50 am] thomasohana : yes Mitch
[07:50 am] qwert : yes sir
[07:50 am] garyb : yes
[07:50 am] apple : yes, they do
[07:50 am] mh : how do you check if your orders are delayed i am using think or swim
[07:51 am] eyes : Mitch on CIb Stoch turned over while Price still going up 1
[07:51 am] jolliffboy : right on Mitch
[07:51 am] qwert : cib consolidating near hod[07:51 am] garyb : I use the Tradestation Matrix.....nothing is faster IMO
[07:52 am] shark : IMO? garyb[07:52 am] garyb : in my opinion
[07:52 am] apple : absolutely correct, MK
[07:52 am] scalpman : I started in ETrade...but quickly realized it was totally insufficient for order entry. I use Trade Station now!
[07:52 am] jolliffboy : Right again Mitch
[07:53 am] apple : and most of all have patience, MK
[07:53 am] khall : right
[07:53 am] richard : exactly scalpman, me too
[07:53 am] scalpman : I like to put on an OCO. It places my stop and two limit orders at 1 and 1.5 %.
[07:54 am] scalpman : Then I watch and adjust.
[07:54 am] mh : how can you tell if your orders or information is delayed
[07:54 am] scalpman : If I fill on the first limit order, i cancel the rest of the OCO and place a new one.
[07:55 am] thomasohana : I've done it mitch[07:55 am] richard : yes M
[07:55 am] skydiver : totally agree Mitch --
[07:55 am] mh : i am the poster child
[07:55 am] joeytsa : sounds like a plan
[07:56 am] shark : absolutely!
[07:56 am] skydiver : thanks Mitch --
[07:56 am] scalpman : The toughest thing is picking the right order entry..., too soon too late...It is an art!
[07:56 am] apple : you got it, MK, no more going back to bad old habits, new year, fresh beginning. shake!
[07:56 am] shark : right scalp!
[07:57 am] skydiver : yes Mitch - see that
[07:57 am] apple : i agree scalp about the orders...
[07:59 am] scalpman : WWW turning over...
[08:00 am] shark : agreed, Mitch
[08:01 am] rusty : SINA radar
[08:01 am] mh : mitch is think or swim tdameritrade the wrong platform
[08:01 am] apple : thx rusty
[08:02 am] mhaus : mh, TOS is expensive for scalping
[08:02 am] mhaus : it is $20 per round trip
[08:02 am] mhaus : IB, TS or Lightspeed are $2 per round trip
[08:03 am] shark : :)
[08:03 am] carl : new guy here, how is the IB platform?
[08:03 am] Mitch K: IB platform good if you use Ninja
[08:03 am] mhaus : Brokerage is good, platform sucks
[08:04 am] mhaus : IB with Ninja and Kineticks is the combination you want to use
[08:04 am] carl : what fee structure is best on IB?
[08:05 am] mhaus : I use fixed,ut that is my preference b
[08:05 am] jsn13 : definitely need that....IB + Ninja + Kinetick...
[08:06 am] mhaus : IB charts suck, so Ninja. Their data feed is slow, so Kineticks.
[08:07 am] jsn13 : Any explanation on this kind of advanced trade, CRIS?
[08:07 am] shark : that was good one, Mitch
[08:09 am] apple : thx for CRIS, E
[08:10 am] apple : 3 minutes, pretty darn good
[08:10 am] jsn13 : Ed, can u point out which bar u shorted CRIS?
[08:11 am] mhaus : VPRT
[08:12 am] Ed : on some of these stocks like cris,it is advanced and at times it will give u a quick long and quick short
[08:12 am] rusty : CRIS radar
[08:12 am] apple : very fast
[08:12 am] Ed : so on this one I went long and reversed for short
[08:13 am] sunset : so Ed when u said advanced , that means short it
[08:14 am] Ed : advanced means being flexible and quick as it can give u a quick long and quick short
[08:14 am] rusty : CRIS FDA approval
[08:15 am] Ed : this is not edged in stone as it depends on price action, vol, price, if @ near resist/support.
[08:16 am] Ed : jsn13 and sunset, i would suggest practicing these in virtual to get feel of it, until u get really good at them
[08:17 am] sunset : that is what i am doing for now
[08:19 am] Ed : good deal sunset
[08:20 am] sunset : haven't made any trades today, just trying to get familiar with the work here thanks
[08:20 am] shark : did you trade PMC, Mitch?
[08:20 am] Ed : that's best
[08:21 am] rusty : RDWR radar
[08:21 am] Ed : welcome to the room sunset
[08:21 am] skydiver : I'm out of time -- have a great day trading everyone. Thnx again for the great lesson today Mitch
[08:22 am] Ed : c ya sky
[08:22 am] joeytsa : later sky, nice trading
[08:22 am] jsn13 : Anyone using IB and do u have shares to short?
[08:22 am] shark : Kris posted/traded YOKU
[08:23 am] khall : I'm using IB and yes, they do have a good inventory of shares to short
[08:23 am] jsn13 : sorry i meant VPRT in specific....
[08:23 am] thomasohana : yes IB has shorts
[08:26 am] khall : LOL - that's rather extreme Mitch
[08:26 am] mhaus : SINA moving again
[08:27 am] joeytsa : how about 14 yrs? :)
[08:27 am] khall : Mitch, that's what I'm counting on - the process is nerve wracking at times though
[08:27 am] shark : thank you, MITCH! :)
[08:28 am] apple : funny joey
[08:28 am] shark : NFLX watching -poss bottom
[08:28 am] joeytsa : funny but true apple
[08:28 am] joeytsa : SINA at prev hi
[08:29 am] rusty : RIMM radar
[08:29 am] rusty : moving up fast
[08:30 am] dudley : thks Mitch ..very helpful
[08:30 am] khall : Thanks Mitch
[08:30 am] mhaus : VPRT moving up again
[08:30 am] joeytsa : great lesson Mitch
[08:30 am] mh : yep
[08:31 am] jolliffboy : Thanks Mitch, practice makes perfect....sometimes.
[08:31 am] garyb : great lessons!
[08:32 am] joeytsa : CRM tested and pushed above prev cl
[08:32 am] apple : great reminder MK
[08:32 am] shark : best words of the day, Mitch!
[08:32 am] garyb : wow RIMM is exploding
[08:33 am] jsn13 : Fully agree Mitch....i went through the whole process....
[08:33 am] apple : K will be getting ready for his short soon
[08:34 am] shark : buyout rumor at $27
[08:36 am] eyes : Mitch is Right I started with real money and lost a lot now i am all messed up take his advise
[08:36 am] apple : ROK still moving
[08:36 am] garyb : but eyes...you have been in the room for a long time now
[08:36 am] shark : good point, garyb[08:37 am] Ed : but u did the right thing eyes, u took a step back and realized u must become a student and are on virtual. Stay on track and u will do well
[08:38 am] qwert : i agree ed eyes is on the right track now HE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL
[08:39 am] joeytsa : losing trade = paid tuition, if you learned from it
[08:39 am] mhaus : VPRT turned over. Hope you got the short.
[08:39 am] garyb : in my opinion I think trading with real money is better as you really try to control yourself.....I learned trading small positions
[08:39 am] carl : What is the cost of both Kineticks and Ninja?
[08:39 am] joeytsa : me too gary
[08:40 am] rusty : agree on trading small positions
[08:40 am] shark : I AGREE, GARYB
[08:40 am] lightning : I think trading with someone else's real money is even better
[08:40 am] shark : keep positions small if necessary, keeps you in the game
[08:41 am] joeytsa : same with placing bets...keep them small until you can control your emotions
[08:41 am] garyb : lol lightning!
[08:41 am] joeytsa : nice lightning haha[08:41 am] mhaus : Carl, it is better to purchase Ninja for onetime $995. If not, monthly $40 or $50
[08:42 am] mhaus : Kinetics is around $70 a month
[08:42 am] shark : paper trading is good for learning how to place your orders properly, and seeing how the system works
[08:42 am] carl : Thanks, Is Kineticks part of that deal also?
[08:42 am] mhaus : No. It is separate
[08:43 am] joeytsa : VPRT coming into vwap[08:44 am] joeytsa : new traders : learn from our mistakes
[08:44 am] garyb : The emotional part is the BIGGEST thing to manage when trading IMO
[08:45 am] apple : it is gary, definitely
[08:45 am] joeytsa : like Mitch said : learn 1 technique well, learn sound money management
[08:45 am] rusty : its much less emotional when you are paper trading
[08:45 am] eyes : I have no emotions left
[08:45 am] joeytsa : yeah gary
[08:45 am] qwert : nice vwap bounce on vprt joey
[08:46 am] joeytsa : it was, same with SINA banging head on prev hi and down $1
[08:46 am] qwert : yeah nice on sina[08:46 am] joeytsa : don't like the low vol cons on VPRT though
[08:47 am] qwert : same here on vprt[08:47 am] eyes : eyes=mule
[08:47 am] joeytsa : loved it on the break at $37 though :)
[08:47 am] garyb : hang in there eyes! It's all a learning experience....something to laugh over in the future over some beer!
[08:48 am] joeytsa : mule=joey circa 1998-2011
[08:48 am] shark : PAPERTRADE LOSS - happy it wasn't REAL LOSS -pissed, learn not to repeat
[08:48 am] shark : PAPERTRADE GAIN- pissed it isn't real REAL GAIN -happy, doing the right thing
[08:49 am] shark : seems quite contrary!
[08:49 am] rusty : take those training wheels off that bicycle
[08:49 am] joeytsa : ken61: you still here?
[08:49 am] mhaus : PAPER TRADE LOSS - sad, REAL TRADE LOSS - doomed
[08:50 am] shark : not if you keep it small, mhaus[08:50 am] shark : keeping losses small is rule #1
[08:50 am] joeytsa : trade loss = cdb, cost of doing business
[08:50 am] joeytsa : right shark...
[08:50 am] mhaus : emotions, hard to keep is small
[08:50 am] joeytsa : only way to suffer large losses is to let small ones grow
[08:51 am] shark : first question on a trade, HOW MUCH AM I WILLING TO RISK ON THIS TRADE?
[08:51 am] khall : and stick to that
[08:51 am] sunset : unless u trade earnings shark
[08:51 am] khall : sometimes that's the hard part
[08:51 am] joeytsa : yeah shark..and what's my max loss/what can go wrong
[08:51 am] shark : If you can't risk, don't trade
[08:52 am] shark : PRO -how much can I lose?
[08:52 am] shark : AMATEUR -how much can I make?
[08:53 am] joeytsa : 100% spot on shark
[08:53 am] rusty : PAAS radar
[08:53 am] garyb : I like that shark!
[08:53 am] garyb : how about PRO= How can I minimize losses?
[08:53 am] shark : also.......
[08:54 am] shark : scale in to a position, so you can minimize
[08:54 am] shark : Nice, ED!
[08:55 am] Ed : it had a pullback to that consolidation i mentioned
[08:55 am] shark : :) pullback to 21min ma
[09:00 am] pow : gmcr[09:01 am] rusty : SBSA worth watching again
[09:02 am] shark : VIX back below 20 - 19.68
[09:07 am] thomasohana : dmnd[09:08 am] qwert : watching dmnd[09:08 am] shark : nice qwert/thomas[09:08 am] joeytsa : CF might try for another move up
[09:09 am] shark : does look good, joey
[09:10 am] joeytsa : up there in price, but makes decent moves
[09:10 am] rusty : anyone here find a SBSA borrow by any chance?
[09:10 am] joeytsa : L list @ lightspeed[09:11 am] rusty : L = ?
[09:11 am] shark : Etrade Rusty SBSA short shares
[09:11 am] joeytsa : none @ schwab[09:11 am] shark : AAPL moving higher of ma's
[09:18 am] rusty : thx guys for help with SBSA borrow
[09:24 am] Ed : ppp push REGN
[09:24 am] joeytsa : yeah Kris, all on low vol consolidation
[09:25 am] joeytsa : thanks for the heads up, didn't see it on the 1min, def see it on the 5min and 15min though
[09:29 am] joeytsa : i get wayyy too focused on the 1min, need to check different time frames, esp this time of the trading day
[09:39 am] rusty : QCOR radar
[09:42 am] thomasohana : RENN
[09:53 am] shark : for swing traders IACI popping fri/today -very good vol[09:55 am] joeytsa : yeah shark, maybe on a break of that $44 area?
[09:57 am] shark : I wouldn't wait that long
[09:58 am] joeytsa : you're younger than me :)
[09:58 am] shark : in addition the stock bounced off 50day
[09:58 am] joeytsa : i was just thinking about the resistance
[09:58 am] shark : support is stronger here, based on volume, chart action
[10:01 am] joeytsa : lots of earnings coming up this week
[10:01 am] shark : IACI Earnings have been robust over the last 4 quarters. Institutional sponsorship has increased over the last 4 quarters. IACI has also had two prior gap ups, both on favorable earnings
[10:02 am] joeytsa : they have had a really nice run
[10:02 am] joeytsa : uptrend since spring 2009
[10:04 am] joeytsa : SINA coming into prev cl
[10:05 am] shark : GS bullish Gingrich? recommending sell SPLS !
[10:05 am] joeytsa : BIDU same into prev cl
[10:12 am] joeytsa : seems like a slower than normal slow time
[10:12 am] Ed : like summer time
[10:14 am] joeytsa : looks like QCOR like that pivot there, see if it breaks down
[10:15 am] Ed : now see if engulfing pattern can hold on the 2 min
[10:16 am] Ed : not in the trade wanted more selling
[10:16 am] joeytsa : also looking for a lower high?
[10:17 am] Ed : could have played the hammer for aggressive or engulfing conservative on 2min
[10:17 am] Ed : right
[10:17 am] shark : NFLX complete RT today
[10:18 am] joeytsa : NFLX just went below prev hi/prev cl
[10:19 am] jimmyp : Kris, does CIB pattern usually breakout on a flag?
[10:19 am] joeytsa : Ed, on QCOR, you are talking about the hammer at the pivot to go long right
[10:19 am] Ed : yes
[10:19 am] Kris : yes, flag is a continuation pattern
[10:19 am] joeytsa : would have made a nice low risk, ok reward
[10:20 am] Ed : if i had same setup on 1min, i may have taken it
[10:20 am] jimmyp : thanks, I just got stopped, ha
[10:20 am] Ed : what was entry jimmyp[10:21 am] joeytsa : it's nice on the 2min, on the 1min might have had to rely on indis[10:21 am] jimmyp : 60.42
[10:21 am] Ed : thought u were talking qcor[10:21 am] jimmyp : was thinking it would fall with market, not
[10:22 am] Ed : i always trade off 1min though, just happened to look at chart in room
[10:22 am] jimmyp : I know better, should have followed MK advice. It's not a pattern I do well with
[10:23 am] joeytsa : haha, i didn't even see it in the room
[10:23 am] Ed : u compromised, only good in a marriage, i think
[10:23 am] jimmyp : just can't understand how any bank can hold up in this environment
[10:25 am] Ed : will give u this quote, "markets can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent"
[10:25 am] joeytsa : BIDU at prev high
[10:26 am] Ed : great one to recall, keeps one flexible and eyes on the action
[10:27 am] joeytsa : noticed a different stochastic setting on the REGN chart..any performance difference noticed?
[10:28 am] murano : YPF
[10:29 am] joeytsa : are these south american banks?
[10:33 am] Ed : energy company
[10:33 am] joeytsa : thanks...just noticed a few names today
[10:39 am] garyb : Well this is certainly interesting.... http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-d ay-the-mother-of-all-head-and-shoulders-2012- 1
[10:41 am] khall : why, yes it is
[10:43 am] mhaus : YPF still moving down
[10:44 am] qwert : nice trade ed[10:45 am] Ed : thx
[10:46 am] Ed : more sellers came in
[10:47 am] sunset : ED,i didn't see ypf short recommendation, do i just assume that when u said still moving down
[10:48 am] Ed : typically the ones I post they are quick movers, based on what I am seeing I will look for reversal of the trend but sometimes reverse based on what I am seeing, be it price, vol, etc.
[10:49 am] Ed : so to be specific, I was look for reversal to go long but buyers did not come in, stock was still weak so I shorted it breaking the low
[10:50 am] sunset : ok got it so , recommending covering short for those who shorted it
[10:51 am] sunset : on their own
[10:51 am] Ed : just like on CRIS early, I was looking for the reversal of the trend which was the short but saw that it was still strong for that moment and went long then reversed to go short
[10:52 am] Ed : correct
[10:52 am] sunset : do u usually say what's on ur mind though?
[10:53 am] Ed : depends on the stock, like on REGN I did
[10:53 am] sunset : ok
[10:53 am] skydiver : ypf[10:53 am] sunset : thnks for the verification
[10:55 am] Ed : but to clarify when I mention watching stock, I am looking to reverse the trend, however for advanced traders there may be an opportunity to continue to trade the trend then reverse
[10:56 am] sunset : like ypf reversal now?
[10:56 am] Ed : yep, but too late 4 me to buy
[10:56 am] sunset : k
[10:56 am] go4it : ED just curious what time did you enter YPF?
[10:57 am] Ed : let me look
[10:58 am] Ed : i had a long entry @ 1:30 est and stopped for breakeven then went short 1:40 @ 35.71
[10:59 am] Ed : these are est. times
[11:00 am] Ed : missed that nice long though
[11:00 am] Ed : made up for it on short, no love lost
[11:01 am] thomasohana : dang, i always get out too early YPF long 34.57 out 35.05
[11:01 am] go4it : Thx for explaining ED it helped a lot
[11:01 am] Ed : still nice trade thomasohana[11:01 am] wade50 : I reviewed 3 min. fade over the weekend. Worked perfectly.
[11:02 am] thomasohana : thx ed[11:02 am] wade50 : I'm out
[11:02 am] Ed : nice going wade50
[11:04 am] qwert : ypf nice thx ed[11:05 am] Ed : no problem, glad u got the long
[11:08 am] go4it : is there another short here YPF?
[11:11 am] eyes : S YPF 35.76
[11:11 am] thomasohana : I went short 35.79
[11:11 am] Ed : not for me, does not fit my style of trading
[11:11 am] khall : joey, cf is moving
[11:17 am] apple : YPF looked beautiful
[11:17 am] lightning : YOKU jump
[11:24 am] eyes : out 2/3 35.41 YPF
[11:24 am] thomasohana : nice eyes
[11:25 am] apple : very good eyes
[11:27 am] eyes : out last 1/3 35.21
[11:29 am] mh : CIB HOD
[11:30 am] thomasohana : ZNGA hod[11:34 am] garyb : Great Joey! How is your awesome computer??? Do you have screens all around you now??
[11:36 am] joeytsa : loving everything so far..lightning helped me out big-time getting used to esig[11:37 am] joeytsa : I'm not getting many movers today though
[11:38 am] thomasohana : joey is that your falcon computer?
[11:38 am] joeytsa : ACI research CEO Zabitsky calling for $270 on AAPL
[11:38 am] joeytsa : yeah thomashana[11:39 am] thomasohana : cool man, what kind of processor does it come with? just curious
[11:39 am] joeytsa : in may 2010 zabitsky said AAPL would drop 50%...missed it by that much hahah[11:40 am] joeytsa : he said" there's no doubt i was way too early on the call" ya think
[11:40 am] apple : just a tad
[11:41 am] lightning : i like how analysts are never wrong. They are just early.
[11:41 am] joeytsa : i7 thomasohana[11:41 am] garyb : Joey...i bet your trading is going better too! Can react faster with all those setups?
[11:42 am] joeytsa : i have actually slowed down gary...getting pickier with my trades
[11:43 am] garyb : I guess so eh.......with all those different timelines open at once..what looks good on one timeline may not look so good on another
[11:43 am] joeytsa : actually they are all the same timeline..that's 1 of my probs'
[11:44 am] eyes : 22 trades 12 winners 10 losers -130 for the day overtrading big time
[11:44 am] khall : joey, have you taken a gander at CF?
[11:44 am] joeytsa : yeah khall..slow trend up
[11:45 am] joeytsa : eyes : if all 22 trades were good signals, then not overtrading
[11:45 am] apple : why do you feel you were overtrading, eyes?
[11:46 am] joeytsa : khall: you playing CF?
[11:46 am] joeytsa : Brent: any significance with the 6,5,4 stoch setting?
[11:48 am] Brent : don't think so Joey, those are Mitch's charts. He plays with stochastic settings like my boys play GI Joe
[11:48 am] joeytsa : i have tried a few combinations
[11:49 am] Brent : If they had Stochastics for Xbox, he'd get one
[11:49 am] joeytsa : for some reason, not sure why, but i use 3,12,3 on my ES tick charts
[11:52 am] rusty : http://www.businessinsider.com/a-golden-cross -is-about-to-appear-in-the-sp-500-2012-1
[11:52 am] eyes : hey I got a question what is the current version of ninja with ib are you all using
[11:53 am] joeytsa : khall: CF down $1 past few minutes
[11:53 am] joeytsa : eyes: i had to use the latest version, 7 i think it is
[11:53 am] joeytsa : some kind of CME rule they added
[11:54 am] khall : yeah, I hit the pop for a nice little profit
[11:54 am] joeytsa : great job !!!
[11:55 am] apple : khall, you didn't short after that?
[11:55 am] joeytsa : thanks rusty, golden cross has gotten a lot of attention recently
[11:55 am] khall : nope
[11:55 am] khall : I kind of missed that one...
[11:55 am] khall : turned my attention elsewhere
[11:56 am] khall : wish I would have shorted it tho[11:58 am] joeytsa : WAB quick drop, low vol[11:58 am] apple : very quick and almost no volume...
[11:58 am] joeytsa : looks like half the vol was on that 1 spike haha[11:59 am] apple : all the volume
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : DECK down a bit from the high, might be looking for a bottom?
[12:02 pm] shark : still more downside poss -DECK
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : yeah i see that
[12:02 pm] garyb : in contrast Rusty..... http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-d ay-the-mother-of-all-head-and-shoulders-2012- 1
[12:03 pm] shark : had a double top, joey
[12:03 pm] shark : intraday
[12:03 pm] shark : gld[12:03 pm] rusty : and both from the same author hours apart...gotta love technical analysis
[12:03 pm] joeytsa : yeah, good catch...lower high, then higher high then lower high
[12:04 pm] rusty : HDY radar
[12:06 pm] shark : RENN
[12:08 pm] apple : renren up up[12:09 pm] shark : BIIB reports before the bell tomorrow
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : think they had a bit of a gap up last earnings
[12:10 pm] shark : yes!
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : ISRG another one that does that
[12:10 pm] Kris : RENN resistance 7.20
[12:10 pm] Kris : could be test and fail tomorrow
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : BIDU running into prev cl again
[12:14 pm] shark : magnet line
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : makes sense
[12:14 pm] shark : amazing how people feel some psychological comfort there
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : yeah at all of those lines
[12:15 pm] rusty : YPF spike up
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : shark: check out BIDU on a 5 min
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : then look at prev cl line, prev high line
[12:19 pm] murano : ENDP
[12:22 pm] shark : AAPL weakening-sitting below 21,50,100,200 min ma
[12:22 pm] rusty : http://www.futuresmag.com/News/2012/1/Pages/T echnicals-offer-insight-into-strange-stock-ma rket.aspx
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : thanks rusty..good read
[12:26 pm] apple : good one K - just need to drop more...
[12:28 pm] thomasohana : TLC
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : rut roh, DeMark is calling for a top soon...and this time he REALLY means it :)
[12:33 pm] rusty : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-20/dema rk-says-s-p-500-may-reach-1-342-by-next-week- before-falling.html
[12:33 pm] rusty : Demark changed his perdition again today I heard
[12:34 pm] rusty : anyone remember Jerry Favors
[12:34 pm] Kris : sounds familiar rusty
[12:34 pm] rusty : he was the king of flip flop technical analysis
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : real nice bounce on ENDP
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : watch stop..coming into the last breakdown area
[12:37 pm] Kris : and ENDP is coming into the VWAP
[12:38 pm] shark : and............there goes AAPL
[12:38 pm] shark : and the SPY
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : WAB really on the skids
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : ken: how was your 1st day?
[12:49 pm] ken61smith : i made enough to cover the cost of the trade room for a month.
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : great job !!!
[12:50 pm] rusty : Congrats Ken
[12:50 pm] khall : that's great Ken
[12:50 pm] qwert : nice ken
[12:50 pm] ken61smith : i have no earthly idea what i'm doing
[12:50 pm] Kris : don't feel bad
[12:51 pm] Kris : spend time here and you'll catch on quick
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : study what you did
[12:51 pm] ken61smith : it was fun
[12:53 pm] joeytsa : shark: DECK was nice follow-thru short :)
[12:53 pm] apple : REGN hod[12:54 pm] apple : DECK behaved today
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : ES trying to get back to hod[12:55 pm] thomasohana : saw it Kris
[12:55 pm] apple : Thx MK, K, B, E and everyone. Lot of great ideas today. All have a wonderful evening
[12:56 pm] go4it : Is it the 200 day ma ENDP Kris
[12:57 pm] Kris : the tight consolidation and resistance levels from 1/12 and 1/13
[12:57 pm] Kris : plus the whole dollar number adds a little support to it
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