Chat Highlights From 01/10/2013

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[06:16 am] Ed : .
[06:16 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching RS for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching CYN for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching TIF for trades both ways, mostly long
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching KMT for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching MSM for trades both ways
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching MCP for trades both ways today
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching for shorts in NUS and HLF, NUS safer
[06:34 am] Ed : monitor NUS for trades
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching LNKD, for trending stock up today
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching CPT for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: monitoring MKC
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching TXI for trades today
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching ISIS for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: want a little rebound first
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching URBN for short here
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching VMW for short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching COH closely for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: monitoring HAR
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching NXPI for top
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching LVS for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching MSM for bottom
[06:40 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching MDVN for bottom
[06:45 am] Mitch K: monitoring USNA
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching AAPL for bottom here
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching PWE for bottom, take time
[06:47 am] Ed : monitoring TSO no hurry
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching TSO for top
[06:49 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching ELLI for bottom, taking time
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching USNA for bottom
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching JOY for micro short
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching VOXX for trades both ways
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching CPA for short on top of bounce, missed bottom
[07:02 am] Mitch K: working twice as hard today
[07:07 am] Ed : continue to monitor HLF/NUS for trades
[07:08 am] Mitch K: no sell signal on TXI yet, scalp of the day for sure
[07:16 am] Mitch K: the float on TXI is 12.5 million shares, which isnt much.  that explains why the volatility is high.
[07:16 am] Mitch K: although the beta reading is 1.0, whihc means it is not higher volatility than market indexes
[07:17 am] Mitch K: NUS and HLF kicking out good trades
[07:18 am] Mitch K: i mean trending up, not a fashion statement
[07:18 am] Mitch K: MSM looks trendy
[07:20 am] Mitch K: consider reducing TXI if long
[07:20 am] Mitch K: start watching HLF for long entry, bottom
[07:21 am] Mitch K: the HLF long trade i just posted, is a quickie
[07:24 am] Ed : TIF new hod
[07:27 am] Mitch K: was that your buy-sell buttons issue
[07:27 am] Mitch K: you shorted TIF Doji?
[07:28 am] Mitch K: when i put wrong order in, i correct it immediately, i dont try to milk out any price improvement, just move on and get back on track
[07:29 am] Mitch K: i mentioned almost an hour ago TIF is mostly long trade.  these stocks try to "neutralize" and return to center.  thats how i have made money my whole 20 year career.  this gapped down $4.50 a share
[07:30 am] Mitch K: yes shark, return to the mean
[07:30 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[07:30 am] Mitch K: the concept works over and over in day trades, exaggered swing trades. but not so much long term, im not a long termer
[07:31 am] Mitch K: TIF possibly toppy
[07:31 am] Mitch K: HLF quickie long is a  no go
[07:31 am] Mitch K: i like term neutral, makes sense to me.  people get confused when i say mean, they think they have to be a mathematician
[07:32 am] Mitch K: other factor doji, is the retailers have been fairly strong.  Does it make sense that TIF is holding up in this economy when selling $15,000 anniversary rings?  no, but TIF and COH been good trading stocks
[07:33 am] Mitch K: GC taking off, i ignored buy signal
[07:33 am] Mitch K: worth a  short
[07:33 am] Mitch K: TIF toppy
[07:34 am] Mitch K: watching BIIB for bottom
[07:35 am] Mitch K: im using a GC 03-13 chart joey
[07:36 am] Mitch K: wait a sec joey, i just reset my chart and got different look,  only changed to GC 02-13 and then back, hmm
[07:37 am] Mitch K: another setting on GOLD, GC i use is a 250v, volume chart
[07:38 am] Mitch K: starting to watch CL 02-13 for bottom
[07:39 am] Mitch K: anyone get that MSM long and then short?  good bread and butter trade
[07:55 am] Mitch K: nice, you out now khall?
[07:55 am] Mitch K: anyone take the CL trade, at least on simulator?
[07:56 am] Mitch K: sometimes i dont know if anyone is interested in the futures calls but i will keep pointing out some that i like more than others
[07:56 am] Mitch K: nice
[07:56 am] Mitch K: real money or sim?
[07:57 am] Mitch K: just so any newer people to the Trading Room, i personally tend to gravitate toward futures after first hour of stocks
[08:01 am] Mitch K: just so you know, i am intensely working on version 2 of Lightning.  it is very very encouraging.  YOu remember my comments form a week or two ago that we are developing that has extremely high winning rate but there are not many signals per day, maybe 1-2.
[08:03 am] Mitch K: what i think we will have to do is identify these with different color.    we are trying to do something to designate this is one of these low frequency but high odds signals.  during the first 30 minutes of the day today, one came up in CL 02-13.
[08:03 am] Mitch K: can you pull up a CL 02-13 chart on Lightning now?
[08:05 am] Mitch K: what i want to do is give you the reaction that I have when this occurs and that is jump on it.  the signal occurred at  7:01:39 am this morning pacific time, buy price of $93.96
[08:06 am] Mitch K: max possible profit was 19 ticks.  not huge but the winning % rate is what is so exciting,
[08:07 am] Mitch K: another 17-18 ticks
[08:07 am] Mitch K: there was another one earlier that I did not see until now, but I was not looking.  6:11:47 at $94.17, same chart
[08:13 am] Mitch K: another one came up soon after, which is unusual. $94.24 at 6:19:38am pacific, didnt have much movement but did move 10 ticks up.  the way i think this is best handled is to have a profit target of XX number of ticks.  This is a long only strategy that will be embedded in the next Lightning version.  we went back for 6 weeks of consecutive trades and got a very very high winning rate with high average profits, which is a pleasant surprise to us.  No time table to complete this but i think this will take quite a while to complete.
[08:14 am] Mitch K: we also have been able to filter out a high percentage of "garbage signals" and that was another big win for us.
[08:17 am] Mitch K: YOu guys know i am a very upfront person so I will say whatever is the truth.  This will help the stocks version quite a bit but the FuturesForex version is really something special
[08:19 am] Mitch K: i strongly encourage you folks who are stocks only to step outside your comfort zone and start studying and practicing on simulator some futures, just to get your head into it.  takes a few months so start now
[08:22 am] Mitch K: oh, one more tidbit on this, that high winning rate signal, (we dont have a name for it), it is not super time sensitive, meaning, you have time to execute and get a good price.
[08:23 am] Mitch K: what is it lisa
[08:24 am] Mitch K: who does Infinity futures clear through?  Transact?
[08:24 am] Mitch K: ok, is it Ninja that requires the authentication or is it the datafeed people Kinetick?  i think it is Kinetick, although NinjaTrader owns Kinetick
[08:26 am] Mitch K: well interesting story, which i knew was the case when MF GLobal went down?  ANyone with an account at Transact got real lucky to have gotten their money.  i had a little bit with a futures account that cleared through Transact but i have some friends who had a lot of money with that.  i try to use a variety of brokers to diversify from that kind of event
[08:28 am] Mitch K: correct lisa, the stock brokerage firms are much more protected than the Futures Merchants
[08:28 am] Mitch K: as you build up a lot of equity, you need to think about that more.  ask yourself, what could take you down to the poorhouse
[08:32 am] Mitch K: the market indexes have lost their momentum over last 2-3 days.  needs some positive earnings this next week to keep it up or moving up
[08:41 am] Mitch K: joey, you mean selling some of your swing trade long of RGR?  i closed mine yesterday when i posted
[08:42 am] Mitch K: ok
[08:47 am] Ed : Ceo of HLF will be talking shortly
[09:03 am] Ed : LM on move
[09:37 am] Ed : if u shorted LM would cover here
[09:39 am] Ed : LM At least two private equity firms said to have approached the firm but the company was not interested - financial press - Source
[09:45 am] Ed : another shooting in High school
[09:46 am] Ed : in California
[09:47 am] Ed : CAB  SWHC RGR  all same sect
[09:51 am] Ed : happened in Kern County suspect is in custody
[09:56 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPy
[10:00 am] Ed : Greece will stay in Euorzone, news coming out
[10:35 am] Ed : wrong info
[10:35 am] Ed : sorry
[10:35 am] Ed : LM At least two private equity firms said to have approached the firm but the company was not interested - financial press -
[10:39 am] Ed : SPY trading in small range
[10:43 am] Ed : HLF President: Have not yet made a decision on whether to pursue claims against Pershing Square's Ackman; options under review -
[10:50 am] Ed : monitor SAP @ near the 82.50ish area see how reacts there
[10:51 am] Mitch K: look at the daily chart on that
[10:51 am] Mitch K: that RGR is turning over into a short swing
[10:52 am] Mitch K: it is not showing up on Lightning as a sell signal yet but it probably will very soon
[10:59 am] Mitch K: new high on TSO, trending up
[11:11 am] Ed : was monitoring BHP for more selling, no touchy for me here
[11:13 am] Ed : MBI
[11:21 am] Ed : if u were able to short MBI would cover some in here
[11:22 am] Ed : SPY been stucik in trading zone last 1.5 hours
[11:44 am] Ed : SPY bounce
[11:52 am] Mitch K: what kjind of news do we have now, spiking
[11:53 am] Ed : Fed's Bullard: Must continue to be aggressive on monetary policy while being cognizant of risks to inflation- Q&A- "A little disturbed" by Japan FX rate policy. - Source
[11:53 am] Ed : SPYnear hod
[12:01 pm] Ed : DoJ files antitrust suit over recent acquisition of PowerReviews Inc. -
[12:02 pm] Ed : Regarding  BV
[12:03 pm] Ed : SPY new hod
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: microshort on KORS
[12:30 pm] Ed : nice qwert
[12:45 pm] Ed : SPY new hod
[12:51 pm] Mitch K: market has momentum for another couple of days and if more earnings are good, then upside is extended further
[12:52 pm] Mitch K: Bullards comments spiked the market today, mid day
[12:53 pm] Ed : monitor ININ coming days for potential breakout over 40 area with strong vol
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: see all you tomorrow, bye ladies
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: how is your futures coming along?
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: you do good today qwert?
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: later sky
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders

[06:15 am] taco  : gm all
[06:15 am] qwert  : good morning to everybody
[06:15 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:16 am] qwert  : nice moves in the CL this am  :))
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : reports: wholesale inv @ 7pdt,nat gas 7:30pdt, 30yr 10pdt
[06:16 am] shark  : gm all :)
[06:16 am] skydiver  : nice qwert - you seemed to smiling so much it was coming across my monitors :)
[06:16 am] qwert  : hahaha
[06:16 am] khall  : gm
[06:16 am] skydiver  : gm Ed
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : gap up: CRUS,DB,AAPL,HLF was but pulled back
[06:17 am] joeytsa  : gap down: TIF,ASNA,MCP,ARO
[06:17 am] skydiver  : thnx joey for gappers again :)
[06:17 am] qwert  : QLIK, PSMT nice gap us as well
[06:17 am] skydiver  : and thnx to you as well qwert
[06:17 am] qwert  : thx joey for the gaps
[06:17 am] joeytsa  : yep, thanks qwert
[06:18 am] skydiver  : nice to be a part of the thankful club
[06:18 am] joeytsa  : some nice quick futures moves
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: HLF meeting with investors today
[06:20 am] joeytsa  : /ES holding R2 just above 1462 so far
[06:20 am] doji  : Good morning fellas
[06:21 am] qwert  : gm doji
[06:21 am] skydiver  : gm doji
[06:21 am] doji  : \ES could make new 3-year high today at 1468...
[06:22 am] lisas  : gm all    
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : yeah, will be watching 1465 for break
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : /PL very volatile right now
[06:22 am] doji  : Retailers weak today ARO, TIF...
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : TIF lowered yr guidance
[06:23 am] joeytsa  : actually expect earnings at low end of forecast, worried about economic conditions
[06:23 am] lisas  : euro's made a nice move this am
[06:24 am] doji  : APPL also gapped up but last gaps have been sold off recently...
[06:24 am] Ed : is shark here
[06:24 am] shark  : hi Ed :)
[06:24 am] shark  : yes, doji, agreed AAPL
[06:25 am] Ed : hey the usd/jpy trade worked out nicely from few months back will let u know on next round for long
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: any news from CES (consumer electronics show) regarding AAPL
[06:25 am] Ed : this is for swing
[06:25 am] shark  : great, awesome Ed
[06:25 am] taco  : talking mini ipad in china maybe
[06:25 am] taco  : pnonephone
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, heard that -
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : westinghouse came out with $300k tv
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: was hoping for iTV update
[06:26 am] skydiver  : nice price on TV
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : never would i pay even 5 figures for a tv
[06:26 am] shark  : in vietnam, I sat and watched a 360 degree tv with 3D movie
[06:26 am] qwert  : 300k?
[06:26 am] doji  : 300,000
[06:26 am] shark  : was awesome
[06:26 am] doji  : is it 1,000-in TV?
[06:26 am] shark  : also saw ths Sony 84" 4k TV
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : http://www.inquisitr.com/475900/110-inch-4k-t v-unveiled-by-westinghouse-at-ces-2013/
[0 6:27 am] doji  : BB has a 110-in TV
[06:27 am] Ed : this is chart here, it was that close over 80 when last spoke on it
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : very nice trade
[06:27 am] qwert  : wow awesome trade
[06:27 am] taco  : how long did you trade it for ed?
[06:28 am] Ed : will wait for really nice pullback
[06:28 am] shark  : you visiting CES, joey?
[06:28 am] joeytsa  : no, maybe next year
[06:28 am] doji  : What trigger you to buy at 80 Ed?
[06:28 am] Ed : about 3 o days
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: I'll join you there next year joey
[06:28 am] joeytsa  : sounds good
[06:28 am] Ed : on 15 min chart it had a bull cup at that time
[06:28 am] taco  : wow
[06:28 am] shark  : yeah, me too mike
[06:28 am] taco  : i'm dreaming baby
[06:28 am] Ed : back in nov and it was 3rd attempt
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: WTI over 94
[06:29 am] Ed : 3rd attempt over 80
[06:29 am] shark  : Bank Of Japan announced targeting USD/JPY at 90 to the dollar
[06:29 am] shark  : about 3 mos ago when it was 77/1
[06:30 am] Ed : thx shark
[06:31 am] joeytsa  : watching MSM
[06:31 am] joeytsa  : eye on URBN
[06:32 am] cowboyh  : TEVA
[06:33 am] joeytsa  : still watching CELG
[06:33 am] qwert  : watching MCP
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : very nice on LNKD
[06:35 am] shark  : AAPL puts dropping in price, poss bottom
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : BIDU in to $107
[06:35 am] elisha  : Good Morning Mitch, Ed and all
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : watching COH for bottom
[06:37 am] doji  : Dang... put buy isntead of sell order in TIF....
[06:37 am] doji  : mistake
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : done that before doji
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : it might work out haha
[06:38 am] doji  : Already closed
[06:38 am] doji  : with a loss.
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : watching DDD and ARMH
[06:40 am] doji  : FB strong
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : watching BIDU as it nears $108
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : nice move so far though
[06:42 am] taco  : QLIK nice
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : taking quicker profits today
[06:45 am] shark  : AAPL 1/2 way thru gap fill
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : market seems tentative to me for some reason
[06:45 am] shark  : VIX off lod joey
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : /ES tight range
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : BIDU nice pullback to $107
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : /GC nice move also
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL fell right thru pivot
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : watching for sell cover on /GC
[06:48 am] doji  : Don't catch a falling knife
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : there's the /GC sell cover
[06:49 am] taco  : are options prices steadying on aapl?
[06:49 am] shark  : for the moment, yes
[06:49 am] taco  : thx shark
[06:50 am] taco  : l small position 522.03
[06:50 am] joeytsa  : interesting Ed, SPY new hod, /ES is making lows
[06:51 am] doji  : SPY hod?
[06:51 am] doji  : SPY lod
[06:51 am] doji  : Watching MCP
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : yeah weird
[06:52 am] shark  : your monitor upside down, doji?
[06:52 am] doji  : I have lod in SPY Joey
[06:52 am] shark  : again.....
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : yeah, Ed maybe hitting the egg nog again :)
[06:52 am] taco  : haha
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : MGM not a trade, but nice chart to study on shorting lower highs esp as it runs into resistance
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL bouncing around on pivot
[06:53 am] skydiver  : thnx joey -- will study it
[06:53 am] qwert  : watching ULTA
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : just the pattern you are looking for sky
[06:53 am] qwert  : nevermind volume low
[06:54 am] taco  : ISIS hod
[06:54 am] skydiver  : :)
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : NFLX a bit weak off the hod
[06:55 am] doji  : Apple could move on either direction of the pivot
[06:55 am] shark  : ;)
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : minor report out in 5min
[06:56 am] skydiver  : pivot for aapl - is that R1
[06:56 am] skydiver  : ?
[06:56 am] mikewd2 -: you think doji - haha
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : haha
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : strangle it doji :)
[06:57 am] skydiver  : monitoring KORS
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : buy at 524,sell 522
[06:57 am] doji  : What i mean is that because of the drop many would think the pivot as support... but as I said before, previous upside gaps have been sold off
[06:57 am] skydiver  : thnx doji
[06:57 am] mikewd2 -: puts at open would have been nice
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : TIF to test $60
[06:58 am] shark  : AAPL pivot 519.367
[06:58 am] skydiver  : long KORS 52.14
[06:58 am] shark  : AAPL R1 -522.74
[06:58 am] doji  : I shorted apple at the open Mike and still holding it...want to to break below the pivot
[06:59 am] shark  : :)
[06:59 am] doji  : YEs Shark R1
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : /ES coming up to try to test R2
[07:01 am] skydiver  : thnx shark and doji - just getting used to the Ninja trader pivots :)
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: MCP weak today
[07:01 am] reshef  : qcom
[07:01 am] reshef  : QCOM
[07:01 am] skydiver  : out 1/2 of KORS long 52.51
[07:01 am] doji  : TIF at 60
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : sky: you added the pivots
[07:02 am] skydiver  : yes joey
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : they might be different than the lightspeed ones, not sure
[07:02 am] skydiver  : humm -- not sure -- will check
[07:02 am] doji  : MCP weak today
[07:02 am] shark  : echo, echo
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : yeah Mitch, market acting strange to me
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : didnt take it, but nice call on USNA
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: MCP trying to bounce
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: VIX 13.59 - wow very low
[07:06 am] shark  : good time to consider a long, mike
[07:06 am] doji  : HLF NUS
[07:08 am] shark  : you held your FB fromyesterday, doji?
[07:08 am] skydiver  : KORS a slow move up --
[07:08 am] doji  : Nope, but bought today
[07:08 am] shark  : ;)
[07:08 am] doji  : Going bananas now
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : great call Mitch
[07:08 am] skydiver  : good thing I bought 1 million shares to make up for the little profit
[07:08 am] doji  : Time to sell again
[07:09 am] shark  : I think all those zero's are a mirage, sky
[07:10 am] skydiver  : you're right shark!!  guess I was in dream land again :)
[07:10 am] shark  : lol
[07:11 am] reshef  : TXI
[07:11 am] qwert  : URBN strong today
[07:11 am] doji  : HLF strong... just watching...
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: me too doji - dang it
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: invester meeting must be going well today on HLF
[07:12 am] shark  : starts at 8:45am PT I believe
[07:12 am] Ed : joey is at that meeting
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:12 am] shark  : buy on the rumor.....
[07:13 am] shark  : hahaha
[07:13 am] doji  : I should have kept my long in TIF....hahaha
[07:13 am] skydiver  : all out of KORS long
[07:13 am] mikewd2 -: no shares to short at etrade or TS, not that i would do it
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : nice trading
[07:13 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:13 am] shark  : doji, TIF doesn't need to sell anything. they can just hold til gold prices go up
[07:14 am] doji  : Now you tell me
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : ALXN into $102
[07:15 am] shark  : AAPL new lod
[07:15 am] taco  : i see what you mean doji about holding swings overnight, you mentioned yest. glad i sold hlf
[07:16 am] shark  : great trade, Mitch
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : and its fairly low volume
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : only 269K traded so far
[07:17 am] doji  : Apple 519 and the 515 support
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL still selling off
[07:17 am] taco  : AAPL still falling, i need to stop thinking i know anything about where a stock will go
[07:18 am] Ed : hey taco watch how reacts in this area here will mark it up
[07:18 am] Ed : thats aapl
[07:18 am] taco  : ok 516
[07:18 am] taco  : nice thx
[07:18 am] Ed : 515ish
[07:19 am] taco  : k
[07:19 am] Ed : has test near area 2x so one wants to see how reacts
[07:19 am] doji  : The issue with HLF/NUS is that there are some much talks around that it can move up/down quckly that it can take hit your stop order very hard
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, your right doji
[07:19 am] apple  : good morning to all - have to leave in a little while - have an appointment at a middle school
[07:19 am] Ed : been nice play so far in large zone of 20 points, of selling high buying lows
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : yeah doji
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : crude in tight range
[07:20 am] shark  : didn't know they allow minors in this room, apple
[07:20 am] doji  : Look at HLF.. that is what I mean
[07:20 am] doji  : $1   drop in seconds
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : tell robert to stop causing problems :)
[07:20 am] Ed : eventually willl give on either side, as traders we dont care which, just be prepared
[07:21 am] apple  : haha, he's a little nervous because he has to take a a test - but he will be fine, i will take him to lunch first
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : keeps flirting with the teachers :)
[07:21 am] jolliffboy  : anybody have an idea of where the bleeding stops with MCP?
[07:21 am] apple  : haha, you know it, joey - robert is a charmer
[07:21 am] shark  : at 0 joliffboy
[07:21 am] shark  : 2 martini lunch should do it, apple
[07:22 am] jolliffboy  : thats funny. you may be right.
[07:22 am] apple  : wow, have not looked at MCP in a while -- yeah, 0  looks about right
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : MCP was over $70 at one point
[07:22 am] Ed : its been in cont. downtrend jolif, u look for break of downtrend with closing candle above trendline and needs to hold or look for nice rounded bottom
[07:22 am] apple  : haha shark - too funny - we will go for thai
[07:22 am] doji  : MCP, 8 and then 7.5...
[07:22 am] Ed : but it does have an ugly daily chart
[07:23 am] shark  : sounds better. good mom!
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : i wouldnt buy that with Ed's money
[07:23 am] Ed : lol
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : also depends on your mindset
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : trading for a quick scalp or looking for swing..like Mitch mentioned the last 2 days
[07:24 am] doji  : TIF... dang...
[07:24 am] jolliffboy  : Thanks doji. I'll take a closer look at 7.50
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : /GC nice today, /CL still stuck in range
[07:26 am] doji  : My mistake in TIF took all my profits today....
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : /ES basically in 2pt range also
[07:28 am] joeytsa  : gaps on earnings can give great trades
[07:28 am] doji  : I tried to short it after the open but instead I click the buy key...
[07:28 am] joeytsa  : lots of overreactions occur
[07:29 am] doji  : Yes, I corrected and close my order but lost almost 50c...
[07:29 am] taco  : you've been away for a bit doji, you'll be back in no time
[07:29 am] skydiver  : thnx Mitch for good advice
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : and it wasnt breaking news either Mitch
[07:30 am] shark  : return to the mean
[07:30 am] shark  : :)
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : they already had a low target, just committed to it...traders overreacted
[07:30 am] doji  : Thanks for the advise Mitch... What other sectors do that?
[07:31 am] shark  : UNG taken off
[07:31 am] shark  : inventory down 201BCF
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : and had a few up days into earnings
[07:31 am] shark  : they all do, doji. human nature
[07:31 am] doji  : SPY lod
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : /NG went crazy haha
[07:32 am] shark  : had nice pattern all day /NG
[07:33 am] regatta  : so if i'm average, then i'm mean
[07:33 am] shark  : avg $$, not avg emotion regatta
[07:34 am] shark  : haha
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : i have /GC on a sell signal  02-13 contract
[07:34 am] regatta  : maybe it appies to both
[07:34 am] regatta  : applies
[07:34 am] shark  : maybe not
[07:35 am] doji  : MCP
[07:35 am] shark  : LULU @ b/e see if it holds
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : gotya, thanks i remember now you used that
[07:36 am] shark  : AAPL filled gap
[07:36 am] lisas  : confusing me Mitch, little volume in gold mar
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : see if /GC holds this support here
[07:37 am] apple  : ok, gotta go.  everyone have a wonderfully profitable day!
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : enjoy appl;e
[07:37 am] lisas  : bye apple, have a good day with Robert
[07:37 am] taco  : bye apple
[07:37 am] shark  : bye apple :)
[07:37 am] cowboyh  : bye apple
[07:37 am] qwert  : bye apple
[07:37 am] apple  : thx for all the well wishes
[07:38 am] shark  : try the thai iced tea
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : im going to play around with a few other timeframes/settings
[07:40 am] scalpman  : All out HLF L
[07:40 am] taco  : nice
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : break time, see you in 20
[07:41 am] lisas  : later joey joey
[07:41 am] shark  : bye joey
[07:41 am] skydiver  : see ya joey -- enjoy the donuts :)
[07:42 am] doji  : Saclpan, where did you buy HLF (time)?
[07:42 am] doji  : Scalpman
[07:44 am] shark  : EBAY been kicking great trades last few days
[07:44 am] doji  : CRUS at yesterday hihgs
[07:45 am] shark  : Amzn new autorip sounds great -
[07:46 am] mikec  : HLF nice 1 pt. thks
[07:46 am] skydiver  : nice mike
[07:47 am] doji  : MCP holding 8.04.. long at 8.13... we'll see
[07:49 am] jolliffboy  : Good luck doji. You may have picked the bottom.
[07:49 am] scalpman  : doji   41.33
[07:50 am] scalpman  : as usual I was early and had to weather the storm a bit.
[07:50 am] scalpman  : I then added to shares on lower lows.
[07:51 am] scalpman  : My average was 41,33
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: nice recovery in FST today, lower priced stock
[07:51 am] lisas  : did you plan on adding at a lower level, ie enter with half your position initially scalp?
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: did you have a stop originally scalp?
[07:52 am] doji  : You took HLF after it held 41?
[07:55 am] khall  : I did Mitch
[07:55 am] khall  : yes :-)
[07:56 am] lisas  : no, but traded it premarket profitably in sim
[07:56 am] khall  : real money
[07:56 am] lisas  : good job khall
[07:56 am] scalpman  : No...I was watching for a drop below the 50% fib
[07:56 am] shark  : nice khall
[07:56 am] shark  : NFLX nice bounce
[07:56 am] scalpman  : stopp was mental below the open
[07:56 am] taco  : yes please mitch
[07:57 am] qwert  : please keep pointing them out
[07:57 am] khall  : Yes, please do
[07:57 am] lisas  : keep them coming Mitch, a lot for us to absorb, but it hellps
[07:57 am] cowboyh  : Keep it up Mitch
[07:57 am] lisas  : does anyone else us the MA in ninja?
[07:57 am] shark  : love 'em Mitch. am getting more into these
[07:57 am] scalpman  : Because of prior action, I thought it would retrace 50% on the rebound.  That's exactly what it did.
[07:57 am] jimjllsail  : futures info good tanks
[07:58 am] taco  : TIF turning
[07:58 am] jimjllsail  : me too
[07:58 am] skydiver  : have a good day all.  Been good day.   Thanks for the great calls   see ya tomorrow am.
[07:59 am] lisas  : bye sky
[07:59 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:59 am] taco  : bye sky have a great day
[07:59 am] shark  : you doing some forex too, Mitch?
[07:59 am] doji  : Watching NFLX
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: looking to open a futures account soon
[07:59 am] scalpman  : Doji...sometime the bottom is has final plunge and exhaustion, low or high...not always...but then it come roaring back at the "real bottom"
[07:59 am] shark  : they have it on etrade, mike
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: going to go with TS
[08:00 am] shark  : probably better :)
[08:00 am] khall  : bye sky
[08:00 am] lisas  : Mike, when you do, be sure to call the margin dept to get lower margin for futures day trades
[08:00 am] shark  : NFLX nearing hod retest
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: thanks lisas
[08:01 am] shark  : awesome, Mitch!
[08:02 am] lisas  : np mike
[08:02 am] taco  : awsome
[08:02 am] scalpman  : Mitch...that's good...I'd be very interested...
[08:02 am] khall  : Exciting news Mitch
[08:03 am] khall  : it's up
[08:04 am] taco  : ok
[08:04 am] qwert  : its always up
[08:06 am] shark  : nice Mitch
[08:07 am] khall  : 19 ticks is $190 on 1 contract - pretty nice change
[08:07 am] scalpman  : DDD good bounce...missed it!
[08:09 am] jsn13  : Mitch, what time did the closing signals appear for the CL trade that u mentoned?
[08:09 am] scalpman  : Watching MLNX
[08:09 am] qwert  : watching MDR
[08:12 am] jolliffboy  : doji there goes your MCP.
[08:13 am] eyes  : Nice doji on MCP
[08:13 am] shark  : AAPL new lod
[08:13 am] shark  : awesome doji - MCP
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : nice Mitch
[08:14 am] taco  : good stuff mitch
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : ATM strategies help there
[08:14 am] shark  : sounds like it is already working great, Mitch
[08:15 am] shark  : Yeahhh! :)
[08:15 am] joeytsa  : i'm liking Version 1 so far
[08:15 am] khall  : is this on the next version you will release or are we looking further out than that?
[08:16 am] lisas  : This is primarily the futures version?
[08:18 am] shark  : :)
[08:18 am] doji  : MCP out 1/4 long
[08:18 am] taco  : nice doji
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : sounds good
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL lod
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: should get some support here
[08:23 am] lisas  : FWIW, I found a data provider that does not require you to sign into your account every month, they have the same data as Kinetick, direct from exchanges, in order to get your CME data fee waiver
[08:23 am] lisas  : DTN IQ data
[08:24 am] shawn  : Hey Ed: is WYNN a buy?
[08:24 am] lisas  : with Infinity futures
[08:24 am] lisas  : that I don't know
[08:24 am] lisas  : Hmmm, I think that is one
[08:24 am] doji  : so the only thing you need is to open an account with Infinity Futures Lisas?
[08:25 am] shark  : nice failure at b/e LULU, new lod
[08:25 am] lisas  : Yes, but be aware that if you want to use Ninja for chart trading, you will not be able to, they are not a partner with Ninja. I use their dom, which is good, and I use TS for stocks
[08:27 am] lisas  : I remember that time frame, something about the way Infinity handled there money protected the accounts.
[08:27 am] taco  : i never considered that,
[08:27 am] shark  : that is always in the back of my mind, Mitch
[08:27 am] lisas  : I don't remember the terms, but remember the discussions with some guys that had large futures accounts
[08:28 am] taco  : i suppose it wise to pull excess money out
[08:28 am] lisas  : Yes, not protected like stocks
[08:28 am] doji  : Ok so you use Ninja's dome for futures trading right?
[08:28 am] shark  : I moved my money around during the 2008 era
[08:28 am] taco  : not an issue yet but will be for sure:)
[08:28 am] lisas  : Only if you use a partner broker.
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : i only have 1 futures account, but i do have seperate accounts for everything
[08:29 am] lisas  : I don't know if the sign in is waived because of IQ or because of Infinity. If you want contacts, I can give you those
[08:30 am] shark  : you all out MCP, doji?
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : and futures brokers are much safer than many of the forex brokers
[08:34 am] doji  : Nope, trailing my last 1/2 Shark
[08:34 am] doji  : Watching FB...
[08:34 am] lisas  : Something I remember since Mitch brought up MF global. You want a futures company that doesn't trade itself.
[08:36 am] regatta  : watching WMS
[08:36 am] regatta  : low volume
[08:36 am] lisas  : lunch time, later all
[08:36 am] joeytsa  : enjoy lisa
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : thx for the info
[08:37 am] doji  : Bear/Bull fight in FB at 31
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : CMP low vol but decent drop
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : not typically my type of play
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : RGR selling some
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : nice vol spike too
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : no, meant it had a quick selloff
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : sorry for the confusion
[08:42 am] doji  : out another 1/4 MCP
[08:43 am] taco  : /CL looking good
[08:44 am] jsn13  : taco, are u watching /CL for long or short?
[08:45 am] taco  : for short
[08:45 am] jsn13  : beware of possible trend change....
[08:45 am] taco  : that would be counter trend now tho right?
[08:46 am] jsn13  : now it is at neutral zone i guess...undecided...
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : /CL holding above R2 right now
[08:46 am] taco  : sim i'll go s to support then see if its a long
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : if it loses 94.10 , you might get down to 94?
[08:47 am] shark  : HLF CEO on CNBC after commercial break
[08:47 am] taco  : ten ticks is good ya?
[08:48 am] joeytsa  : $100
[08:48 am] taco  : ya ok
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : thats per contract, so pretty decent
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : /ES is $12.50 ,  /SI is $25
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : per tick
[08:49 am] jsn13  : ed, do u trade /CL now?
[08:51 am] murano  : AMX
[08:52 am] taco  : 4r sell /CL
[08:52 am] Ed : have not this week jsn
[08:52 am] doji  : FB still strong
[08:52 am] jsn13  : ok no prob ed....
[08:52 am] taco  : mCP nice
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: Michael Johnson talking on CNBC
[08:54 am] doji  : talking about HLF?
[08:54 am] shark  : yes doji
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[08:54 am] jsn13  : ed, when u continue trading futures later on, can u give me more explanation on the trend and maybe call out some possible trade with trend setups that u like? Thanks...
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: he is CEP
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: CEO
[08:55 am] jsn13  : as in give us more explanations on the trend...
[08:55 am] mikewd2 -: looking to go long at 40.40 area
[08:55 am] Ed : got it
[08:55 am] mikewd2 -: or maybe lower - haha
[08:56 am] doji  : Ouch HLF...
[08:56 am] jolliffboy  : guess they didnt like what he had to say.
[08:56 am] shark  : ....and sell on the news -HLF
[08:56 am] doji  : That is why I don't mees with HLF...for now
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: holding 40
[08:58 am] doji  : Shark are you in FB?
[08:58 am] shark  : not today
[08:59 am] taco  : profit trgt /CL hit 14 ticks sim w lightning, no sell signal yet tho
[09:00 am] joeytsa  : real nice taco,  you can set it so your stop loss moves to break even etc
[09:00 am] taco  : cool
[09:00 am] joeytsa  : nice drop on UNXL
[09:01 am] joeytsa  : on /CL that loss of 94.10 went right to 94
[09:01 am] joeytsa  : /ES coming up into R1 res
[09:02 am] mikewd2 -: wow HLF selling off
[09:02 am] shark  : Herb Greenberg on HLF
[09:02 am] Ed : guess they like what they hear???
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: double bottom
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : video of HLF CEO when he found out about the short...
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMVl-94Mqr4
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:03 am] jsn13  : joey, did u take that /CL short? what trend was /CL in at that time?
[09:03 am] murano  : LM
[09:04 am] shark  : wow joey
[09:04 am] joeytsa  : i didnt take this one jsn, but i saw it into res
[09:04 am] aussie123  : Joiy...I show ES resistance @ 1460:75 ...Is that what you have???
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: expect HLF to bounce back
[09:04 am] taco  : jsn, if higher low then changing trend
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : aussie, that might be one, i am just looking at R1 at the moment, tight range
[09:05 am] aussie123  : Thank you
[09:06 am] joeytsa  : i try not to get overly technical..basic patterns/setups/ higher or lower highs and lows etc
[09:06 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL aproaching lod
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : Tradestation users :  does anyone know what the C in the orange box next to stock name means?
[09:07 am] jsn13  : ok thanks joey and taco....
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : i think i emailed them once, but forget the answer
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : i have that orange box on AAPL,HLF,FB right now..just wondering
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: in what window joey?
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: chart? order?
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : chart window
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : just to the left of stock symbol
[09:09 am] taco  : AAPL held so far
[09:09 am] taco  : skipping this /CL long tho
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: i have a blue A in one of them
[09:10 am] doji  : NFLX
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: in a blue box
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: not sure what that is actually
[09:10 am] joeytsa  : i have a letter C in an orange box
[09:10 am] joeytsa  : maybe Circuit Breaker symbol?
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: on, that was because i had an alert enabled in that chart
[09:11 am] doji  : No LM shares availble in TDA
[09:11 am] shark  : NFLX at hod retest
[09:13 am] joeytsa  : nice one on NFLX
[09:14 am] joeytsa  : UNXL more drop
[09:14 am] doji  : Dang... order in NFLX was not filled y 3cents
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : BIDU hod
[09:16 am] regatta  : SAP
[09:17 am] joeytsa  : nice regatta
[09:17 am] joeytsa  : NFLX back to $100?
[09:18 am] joeytsa  : BIDU should get $110 also
[09:19 am] scalpman  : LM is crazy
[09:20 am] doji  : Any news on NFLX or people just going nuts on it?
[09:22 am] taco  : thx ed LM
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: breakout on YOKU
[09:24 am] Ed : nice trading taco
[09:25 am] taco  : thx
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : nice pullback on NFLX
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: HLF lod
[09:32 am] taco  : went long of /CL support sim
[09:32 am] joeytsa  : needs to push thru R2 here
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : thats for taco
[09:36 am] joeytsa  : missed that nice move on /NG
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: LM news is private equity would like to take private
[09:40 am] joeytsa  : nice range break on /PL
[09:41 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL selling off again
[09:44 am] shark  : all out NFLX s
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : nice shark
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : thats sad
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: ackman will respond to every HLF issue raised
[09:49 am] joeytsa  : not seeing it on any news on tv yet
[09:49 am] joeytsa  : Biden talking to gun control people
[09:49 am] Ed : TSA has people on the ground for late breaking news
[09:50 am] qwert  : hahaha
[09:50 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:50 am] joeytsa  : TSA is the new TMZ :)
[09:51 am] joeytsa  : taco: you still in/watching /CL?
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : what state is that?
[09:52 am] taco  : watching yes
[09:52 am] Ed : California
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : thx
[09:52 am] Ed : no problem
[09:52 am] taco  : R2 is a stumbler
[09:52 am] taco  : for long
[09:52 am] Ed : happened at Taft high school
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : yeah, break above probably gets it to 94.20
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : you do good work Ed
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:53 am] Ed : thx
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : you get extra fortune cookie with paycheck this week
[09:53 am] Ed : cool
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : too cold for ice cream
[09:53 am] Ed : Mitch has foot soldiers on ground in hot pink suits to get latest news
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : haha
[09:54 am] Ed : all brazillian babes
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : last time i got fortune cookie, the fortune said " that wasnt chicken"  :)
[09:54 am] Ed : lol
[09:54 am] taco  : lol
[09:55 am] Ed : "planes, trains, and & automobiles"  "hey those are n't pillows"
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : haha
[09:55 am] shark  : lol
[09:56 am] Ed : my favorite line in Crimsoon Tide, "God help you if ur wrong, "if Im wrong, God help us all"
[09:58 am] joeytsa  : good line
[09:59 am] shark  : great movie
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: HLF at a support pivot
[09:59 am] Ed : Ceo when speaking did not leave any great points, and he is a salesperson at top of chain
[10:00 am] Ed : speaking of HLF
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: yeah Ed, a bit supprised he didn't move the stock - up that is
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: nice move on AGQ today
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : funny mike, was just going to mention /SI
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : on a nice move, about 90t
[10:10 am] Ed : 90t on SI =$ with discipline=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[10:10 am] joeytsa  : yep
[10:11 am] shark  : :)
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : much higher margin on /SI, but you get $25t
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : watching SSYS
[10:12 am] Ed : that like 1 +5 carry the one 50x and you end up all smiles
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : :)
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: SSYS
[10:14 am] joeytsa  : Ed: 2 people shot in that school
[10:15 am] Ed : i forget, TSA ground babes gave news to me so fast
[10:15 am] joeytsa  : :)
[10:15 am] mikewd2 -: HLF giving it all back today
[10:15 am] Ed : actually call was via skype and got caught up in their beauty
[10:16 am] joeytsa  : cant blame you
[10:18 am] Ed : i woke up a winner in Vegas
[10:18 am] joeytsa  : just dont sell your hair to a wig shop
[10:18 am] Ed : have u seen my head
[10:19 am] joeytsa  : :)
[10:19 am] qwert  : BIDU almost to 110
[10:20 am] taco  : should be back later, but thanks all in case.
[10:21 am] joeytsa  : enjoy taco,  im going to lunch also
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: Obama fixing to speak and announce new treasury secretary
[10:30 am] Ed : u mispelled fixing being from texas and all fixing =fixen
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: haha
[10:31 am] Ed : :)
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: worried no one would understand - haha
[10:31 am] Ed : lol
[10:53 am] elisha  : thanks Mitch
[10:54 am] qwert  : CELG at 95
[11:08 am] joeytsa  : nice steady move on AGN
[11:09 am] joeytsa  : watching /GC, keeps testing this area
[11:11 am] joeytsa  : also watching this CELG pullback
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : crude up 30cents since R1 test
[11:46 am] taco  : had nice moves
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : /GC in a range past 2 hours
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : about 3pts
[11:47 am] doji  : appl
[11:48 am] doji  : Any news or just pump and dump?
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : just mike buying 1M shares :)
[11:49 am] taco  : HLF might lose support
[11:54 am] shark  : yeah, that was aggressive USD/JPY
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : thx
[12:04 pm] doji  : Ok, comments on Apple from Phil Schiller
[12:05 pm] doji  : Co. will never make cheap smartphones future of apple products
[12:10 pm] jimjllsail  : thank you see you 1/11
[12:11 pm] Ed : c ya jiim
[12:11 pm] taco  : bye jim
[12:12 pm] eyes  : Good Night Everyone
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : bye jimj, eyes
[12:12 pm] taco  : c ya eyes
[12:12 pm] qwert  : cya eyes, jimi
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : big vol spike on GRPN
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : not much of a price move
[12:22 pm] Ed : hey taco, aapl bounced off bottom of that range we talked about earlier
[12:22 pm] shark  : ;)
[12:22 pm] taco  : ya i see that
[12:22 pm] taco  : nice
[12:22 pm] shark  : opx going up .50 to 2.50 too
[12:27 pm] doji  : Don't worry, it will drop tomorrow... Apple trading like a penny stock...
[12:27 pm] shark  : on options, yeah. all out long calls now
[12:27 pm] taco  : must be mint, nice
[12:29 pm] shark  : thx, taco
[12:29 pm] qwert  : DECK
[12:29 pm] doji  : Are you trading weekly Shark?
[12:31 pm] shark  : yes
[12:31 pm] doji  : This or next week?
[12:31 pm] shark  : traded 510 puts all morning, long/short
[12:31 pm] shark  : this week, only for day trade
[12:31 pm] doji  : Ok
[12:40 pm] doji  : Very bullish close on the Es... close to the 1468 level
[12:40 pm] skydiver  : thnx qwert for DECK - did that micro short - monitoring ATHN
[12:41 pm] qwert  : :))
[12:42 pm] skydiver  : at the office mutli-tasking - DECK looks like it broke down finally
[12:43 pm] skydiver  : drop DECK drop :)
[12:45 pm] skydiver  : all out of DECK short
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, traders..see you all tomorrow, have a great day :)
[12:46 pm] skydiver  : see ya joey
[12:46 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:46 pm] taco  : bye joey
[12:46 pm] skydiver  : I'm becoming Ed :)
[12:46 pm] qwert  : bye joey
[12:46 pm] Ed : too funny
[12:46 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:46 pm] skydiver  : love trading between phone calls
[12:55 pm] skydiver  : thnx Mitch and Ed. . See you all in the morning . . learning more each day :)
[12:56 pm] Ed : c ya sky
[12:56 pm] qwert  : Thanks for a great day see ya all in the am
[12:56 pm] Ed : c ya qwert
[12:56 pm] taco  : yes thank you Mitch, Ed and all see you tomorrow
[12:56 pm] Ed : c ya taco
[12:56 pm] taco  : i just stumbled on ray lewis, quite a guy
[12:57 pm] qwert  : yeah pretty good only 2 trades but both winners mitch
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: you talking the football player taco
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: nice qwert
[12:57 pm] qwert  : thx
[01:04 pm] victor51  : Ed, you had perfect exit on LM. How did you arrive at this point. Just to learn
[01:07 pm] Ed : more of an art rather than science, when u allow for flexibility and just paying attention to chart more u get get in rythm with markets,
[01:08 pm] Ed : so seeing how actual trend is continuing down and when I see buy signal when Im short I tend to cover
[01:09 pm] Ed : opposite for long, when I see short signal or trend being broken I take profits as well
[01:09 pm] victor51  : thanks Ed. Did you use hit/take for your execution for LM or  limit loss
[01:09 pm] elisha  : you're talking about path of least resistance again - like water looking for lower ground?
[01:10 pm] Ed : well when in trade looking for change of tide or trend
[01:11 pm] Ed : yes i use hit/take  plus .01
[01:12 pm] elisha  : Thanks Mitch, Ed and everyone and to all a good night
[01:12 pm] Ed : good night

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