Chat Highlights From 01/05/2012

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[06:06 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:25 am] Mitch K: hi guys and girls, ladies
[06:26 am] Brent : good morning
[06:29 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:29 am] Kris : let's rock!
[06:29 am] Kris : time to make some money
[06:31 am] Kris : SODA long half
[06:31 am] Kris : watching ACOM for a short
[06:31 am] Kris : watching LEAP for a long
[06:32 am] Kris : VLO short half
[06:33 am] Kris : watching APKT for a long
[06:34 am] Kris : NFLX pushed through resistance
[06:38 am] Kris : watching DVN for a long
[06:39 am] Mitch K: REGN toppy, interesting short, try 58.50
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching MDT for short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching SINA for short
[06:40 am] Kris : COST short half
[06:40 am] Kris : PANL short half
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching PANL for bottom, be patient
[06:41 am] Kris : NTAP short half
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching ASNA for top to short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching HCA for top to short
[06:42 am] Kris : looking for a retest of hod on SODA long
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching GSM for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching KRO for a bounce first, then a short on the top of that bounce
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching SPRD for bottom to buy, be patient
[06:43 am] Kris : watching WYNN for a long
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching to see if REGN breaks below opening price of 57.75, if it does, look at below
[06:44 am] Kris : SPY at support
[06:47 am] Brent : watching TRN for a bounce
[06:47 am] Kris : watching ENDP for a long
[06:47 am] Kris : watching ITMN for a long
[06:48 am] Kris : coming into 50sma daily support
[06:48 am] Kris : SPY trying to bounce off 126.50
[06:48 am] Kris : WMT nice chart for reversal
[06:49 am] Kris : NFLX moving up into hod resistance
[06:49 am] Kris : staying strong, look for a new hod[06:50 am] Kris : long half WMT
[06:51 am] Kris : NFLX new hod[06:59 am] Brent : consider reducing TRN
[07:01 am] Kris : out half COST short
[07:01 am] Kris : short second half PANL
[07:02 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of SINA if short
[07:02 am] Mitch K: consider covering SPRD soon if short
[07:03 am] Kris : looking for a new lod in NTAP here
[07:03 am] Mitch K: consider covering HCA
[07:03 am] Mitch K: consider selling PANL if long
[07:03 am] Mitch K: correction on SPRD, that was consider selling SPRD if long
[07:08 am] Kris : out half NTAP short
[07:15 am] Brent : consider reducing more TRN if still long
[07:17 am] Mitch K: for short in WTW
[07:17 am] Mitch K: watching for top in WTW
[07:24 am] Kris : WTW looks like institutional buying
[07:25 am] Kris : PCAR another example of a mover that I won't want to short
[07:29 am] Kris : see how it acts here
[07:29 am] Kris : SPY at hod resistance
[07:29 am] Mitch K: 2nd helping short in HCA soon
[07:29 am] Mitch K: monitor PVH for top to short, let it turn over first, could be a while
[07:33 am] Kris : I'm looking for some consolidation or a small pull back and then a break to new highs
[07:33 am] Kris : starting to scan for more long ideas
[07:34 am] Kris : the giveaway for me on WTW was the steady volume and price. not increasing enough with each candle and the move was slow and steady.
[07:35 am] Kris : it will probably have some correction but you'll want to make sure it breaks that trendline and it will be a slow mover down
[07:36 am] Kris : watching RPM for a long here soon
[07:37 am] Kris : YOKU breaking out
[07:39 am] Mitch K: watching for DNDN long entry
[07:40 am] Mitch K: long entry on DNDN
[07:41 am] Kris : NGG short half
[07:47 am] Kris : VRTX strong
[07:50 am] Ed : SEMG
[07:50 am] Kris : out half NTAP short
[07:52 am] Ed : reduce SEMG
[07:52 am] Kris : WTW starting to come into resistance area
[07:55 am] Ed : tank u King
[07:55 am] Kris : APKT new hod[07:55 am] Mitch K: nice one Eddie Money
[07:56 am] Mitch K: DECK toppy
[08:01 am] Kris : standby, someone is gonna pay me back here
[08:08 am] Ed : holding last 1/4 with stop @ b/e[08:08 am] Ed : reduce more SEMG
[08:13 am] Ed : tank u sir
[08:13 am] Kris : nice one on SEMG eddie money
[08:20 am] Kris : CHRW breaking support
[08:24 am] Kris : SPY new hod[08:25 am] Kris : A lot of trending stocks today
[08:48 am] Kris : NFLX new lod[09:12 am] Mitch K: NFLX bouncing
[09:49 am] Brent : SPY new hod[09:55 am] Mitch K: DSW looking for short
[10:08 am] Mitch K: you guys must be buying designer shoes because DSW is hot
[10:23 am] Brent : SPY new hod again
[10:37 am] Mitch K: i figure you guys and girls must be losing weight with WTW and buying designer shoes
[10:37 am] Mitch K: looking for a long on WTW
[10:39 am] Mitch K: indexes high of day
[11:21 am] Mitch K: DSW bouncing
[11:56 am] Ed : hod ACOM
[12:28 pm] Kris : could see a test of 130 in the next couple days
[12:28 pm] Kris : SPY gonna close near the highs again today
[12:28 pm] Kris : could see a test of 130 in the next couple days
[12:48 pm] Brent : thx rusty, WPI alert
[12:59 pm] Brent : 1min left if you shorted WPI
[12:59 pm] Brent : consider closing
[01:00 pm] Ed : good night traders
[01:02 pm] Kris : everyone have a great night. see you all back here tomorrow morning.
[01:02 pm] Kris : good job today
[01:04 pm] Brent : have a great night, see you all tomorrow
[06:19 am] joeytsa : 1.8M less jobs in america since start of '09
[06:19 am] apple : thx joey, but aren't more people self-employed?
[06:19 am] joeytsa : sure hope so
[06:20 am] mikewd2 -: probably all day traders
[06:20 am] apple : lol[06:20 am] joeytsa : hopefully bad ones..they are the ones buying what we are selling :)
[06:20 am] apple : i think people realized there were many alternatives for earning a living
[06:20 am] mhaus : watching DMND
[06:21 am] joeytsa : i think too many people seriously miscalculated their futures
[06:21 am] apple : right, that was the mindset of last century...
[06:21 am] joeytsa : yep, that SS would be their life saver
[06:21 am] apple : silver is down
[06:24 am] apple : DNDN moved up quite a bit
[06:26 am] joeytsa : JCP looking ugly too
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: Dendreon reports Q4 revenue $82M vs. consensus $88.91M
[06:28 am] lightning : SODA, ACOM, PLCE look nice
[06:29 am] lightning : and AEO
[06:29 am] doji : so DNDN reported lower revenue but ist is up 20% today...????
[06:29 am] joeytsa : thanks mike..on that news wonder why it jumped up earlier
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: don't understand either doji[06:29 am] apple : just so you could short it, doji[06:29 am] apple : right? did you?
[06:29 am] doji : you read my mind Apple
[06:30 am] doji : NFLX moving up
[06:31 am] doji : SODA moving up
[06:31 am] observer : L Zagg 7.79
[06:33 am] sfarrill : ACOM
[06:33 am] rusty : CHE radar
[06:33 am] skydiver : watching ACOM
[06:34 am] shark : Euro new low against US Dollar
[06:35 am] skydiver : S ACOM 26.69
[06:35 am] rusty : SOHU hod[06:35 am] joeytsa : BIDU,CRM with a little strength
[06:35 am] doji : SPY reversing
[06:35 am] shark : GOOG hod[06:35 am] joeytsa : will watch them
[06:36 am] doji : Missed rebound in APKT
[06:36 am] doji : Watching SODA
[06:37 am] apple : i wished i would have only been watching SODA
[06:37 am] joeytsa : a few companies lowering guidance
[06:38 am] shark : ACOM up 16%
[06:38 am] joeytsa : watching SINA for a top
[06:38 am] mhaus : SINA
[06:38 am] doji : DNDN strong today
[06:39 am] rusty : TLT hod[06:39 am] joeytsa : NFLX dancing today
[06:39 am] doji : DNDN resistance at 10?
[06:40 am] sfarrill : WMT
[06:41 am] doji : SPY lod[06:41 am] joeytsa : lot of charts look alike to me so far
[06:41 am] apple : are they good?
[06:41 am] joeytsa : doji: overnight low on the ES around 1261 area
[06:42 am] joeytsa : only if you bought low and shorted high :)
[06:42 am] joeytsa : at least they are making moves
[06:43 am] joeytsa : trail stop on SINA if short
[06:43 am] skydiver : thanks for reminder joey on SINA trail stop
[06:43 am] observer : Long Slw 29.88
[06:44 am] joeytsa : agree on REGN Mitch, thanks
[06:44 am] shark : GMCR dropping
[06:44 am] joeytsa : here go the overnight lows on the ES
[06:45 am] doji : SPY only red candles in the last 8 min
[06:45 am] skydiver : spy
[06:45 am] doji : SPY only red candles in the last 8 minutes
[06:45 am] rusty : RAM lod[06:46 am] joeytsa : i have a couple green on my ES, but i use ticks..but been trending down since just after the job #
[06:46 am] doji : SPY still looks weak
[06:46 am] joeytsa : guess nobody believed it?
[06:47 am] Kris : I use half second chart and I see a couple greens too
[06:47 am] joeytsa : SINA with the beauty upside down V
[06:47 am] joeytsa : hahaha[06:47 am] rusty : covered 1/2 RAM
[06:47 am] joeytsa : will now be known as the "flyin V" just like the guitar
[06:48 am] joeytsa : kris: I'm using 1m, with short term tick and long-term tick, 578/2584
[06:49 am] doji : Big jump in NFLX
[06:49 am] apple : still holding from yesterday, i am very happy
[06:49 am] rusty : RHT buyout rumors
[06:50 am] joeytsa : BIDU,CRM,SINA..all playing nicely
[06:50 am] observer : adding to SLW
[06:51 am] skydiver : RHT - take over chatter
[06:52 am] shark : DNDN busted thru $10
[06:52 am] shark : up 34%
[06:52 am] rusty : SHLD lod[06:53 am] gamou : rht[06:53 am] skydiver : crazy ride on NFLX
[06:55 am] rusty : starting to buy a few SHLD into weakness
[06:55 am] rusty : contrarian swing trade
[06:56 am] joeytsa : makes sense rusty
[06:57 am] mikewd2 -: I've seen targets for SHLD at 20
[06:57 am] mikewd2 -: but probably some for 100 also, lol[06:58 am] joeytsa : haha[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: FST keeps falling, help!
[06:58 am] joeytsa : MOS strong at the moment
[06:59 am] apple : lol mike
[06:59 am] joeytsa : same with MON
[06:59 am] doji : DNDN continues moving up
[06:59 am] shark : up 43%
[07:00 am] doji : Are you long Sharky?
[07:00 am] apple : are you L on DNDN, doji[07:00 am] shark : no
[07:00 am] doji : I got a piece at 10.39
[07:00 am] joeytsa : mike: are you in FST?
[07:00 am] doji : I also shorted NFLX on the double top....
[07:01 am] skydiver : NFLX - you are very good to us - :)
[07:01 am] shark : DIA testing lod[07:01 am] skydiver : nice doji[07:03 am] doji : Nice move on DNDN
[07:03 am] skydiver : all out of NFLX and RHT
[07:03 am] doji : Double bottom in the SPY
[07:04 am] doji : Is DNDN halted?
[07:04 am] joeytsa : CF hod[07:04 am] skydiver : 5 trades - 5 wins :)
[07:04 am] joeytsa : yeah doji[07:04 am] derns : DNDN does seem like it is halted...51% jump
[07:05 am] skydiver : thnx apple - fun day
[07:05 am] shark : YEAH!
[07:05 am] skydiver : I think shark is happy
[07:05 am] lightning : yes, DNDN is halted
[07:05 am] shark : frozen in stone
[07:05 am] doji : Yeah T7 code for DNDN
[07:05 am] joeytsa : so the economy is rebounding..but chipmakers and now big box retailers are lowering guidance?
[07:05 am] weston : dndn halted
[07:05 am] shark : (digital) stone
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: joey, yeah i'm long on lots of FST
[07:06 am] doji : I see quotes in DNDN from 12 on Bid to 1.85 on ask in in Level II...
[07:07 am] joeytsa : someone wants to sell shares on DNDN around $54
[07:07 am] shark : Euro hitting new lows vs US$
[07:07 am] apple : it used to be up there
[07:07 am] joeytsa : analyst?
[07:07 am] doji : I see your point Joey... as more companies lower their guidance and problems from EU continue coming, the market will head south
[07:07 am] rusty : HGSI radar
[07:07 am] shark : was NEVER worth it
[07:08 am] qwert : wmt popped vwap[07:08 am] apple : no
[07:08 am] doji : DNDN back
[07:08 am] joeytsa : i can see stores having issues with online shopping...but it's the chipmakes that have me curious
[07:09 am] doji : Now the SPY rebounding
[07:09 am] shark : DNDN live chart on CNBC - haha[07:10 am] apple : doji, are you S DNDN?
[07:10 am] shark : breaking up trend DNDN
[07:10 am] doji : No Apple
[07:11 am] apple : i am not in it
[07:11 am] doji : still holding 1/2 DNDN at be
[07:11 am] doji : closed 1st half after it resumed trading
[07:11 am] shark : nice, doji[07:11 am] joeytsa : another beautiful move on BIDU
[07:12 am] apple : nice one joey, i missed that
[07:13 am] doji : BIDU double top Joey
[07:13 am] joeytsa : broke above the prev cl, then held that support, moved above vwap and held that..straight up to the pivot
[07:13 am] joeytsa : kind of looks like it doji...gonna watch this move
[07:13 am] shark : ditto
[07:14 am] joeytsa : doji: remember with pivots, it's the 1st test that's most important, lots of times you will see some kind of reversal on that 1st test
[07:14 am] shark : YES! Good point, joey
[07:15 am] shark : SPY moving up to hod test
[07:15 am] joeytsa : combine them with the TSA settings, vwap and prev cl and you get a real nice look at support/resistance
[07:15 am] cowboyh : MOS looks like trending up
[07:15 am] doji : I know Joey.... just was making an observation on the price pattern... I see resistance at 123.9
[07:16 am] shark : sure is, cowboy - MOS
[07:16 am] Brent : ITMN approaching hod. Good call Kert[07:16 am] apple : nice one on MOS
[07:17 am] joeytsa : cowboy: i think MOS gave good guidance
[07:17 am] doji : DNDN making new highs... still holding 2nd half
[07:17 am] observer : All out SLW , .30.14, 30.19, 30.24, 30.29
[07:17 am] joeytsa : thanks Mitch
[07:18 am] doji : CRM nice move, approaching hod[07:18 am] joeytsa : love it doji[07:19 am] joeytsa : CF has been nice lately
[07:19 am] zentrader : HOT
[07:20 am] joeytsa : maybe a quick short coming on CRM
[07:20 am] joeytsa : see if it holds or breaks
[07:20 am] doji : Short WTW 60.05
[07:22 am] joeytsa : WTW holding strong at the moment
[07:23 am] doji : You are right Joey, had a tight stop
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: doji, where's your stop on WTW?
[07:23 am] joeytsa : consolidation on lower vol?
[07:24 am] apple : it didn't look like it was going to come right down and now there it goes!
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: no matter, stopped
[07:24 am] doji : It was 60.53 but got stopped... my position was only 25% of my usual trade Mike
[07:25 am] apple : tg doji[07:25 am] mikewd2 -: yeah i was light and stop at 60.52
[07:25 am] joeytsa : I'm with you kris[07:26 am] joeytsa : WTW has been above the 15ma most of the morning
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: oh well, had to get the first actual traded lost of the year
[07:27 am] joeytsa : mostly above the 5ma also, few touches below
[07:28 am] doji : For me too Mike....
[07:28 am] skydiver : stopped out on WTW -
[07:28 am] doji : Thanks for the reminder on the MA Joey... good point
[07:28 am] joeytsa : maybe a slight pullback coming for WTW before move higher?
[07:29 am] observer : L ZSL 14.45
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: i think Mitch told us not to short a trending stock, funny how i remember after the lost.
[07:30 am] skydiver : thnx mikewd2 - I forgot about that as well
[07:30 am] joeytsa : at least you remembered :)
[07:31 am] doji : Me too....
[07:31 am] skydiver : I only remembered after mikewd2 reminded us --
[07:31 am] joeytsa : yeah, much easier to swim with the tide
[07:31 am] skydiver : 7 trades today - 5 wins, one loss and one break even
[07:32 am] doji : I see the key here volume; WTW "consolidation" was with lower volume...
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: nice sky
[07:32 am] joeytsa : nice job
[07:32 am] doji : before it moved up again
[07:32 am] joeytsa : very good doji[07:32 am] skydiver : thanks - that WTW caught me -- will review -- thanks for info on it doji[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: yep, your right doji[07:32 am] joeytsa : esp on trending stocks
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: should have went long at 60
[07:33 am] skydiver : yep joey - trending stocks
[07:33 am] doji : so may I say " don't short trending up stocks when it pauses or 'consolidate' with low volume"
[07:33 am] skydiver : thanks again doji - need to burn that into my memory
[07:33 am] joeytsa : you can say it, but there is always the one that still messes it up haha[07:34 am] doji : Yeah, there is always "one" but in general, they won't
[07:34 am] joeytsa : i follow that rule doji[07:34 am] doji : that is why we have stops to minimize losses on the losers
[07:35 am] joeytsa : right kris..no blowout/cleanup print
[07:35 am] joeytsa : the ES turned down, looking for support
[07:36 am] doji : Thanks Kris, let's monitor WTW as use it as part of our education stage
[07:37 am] joeytsa : taking profits on WTW
[07:38 am] joeytsa : i got in late, but don't feel like i chased it
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: got out YOKU at 16 with nice profit - dang it
[07:41 am] doji : Long at 10.49 in DNDN
[07:44 am] observer : thx for DNDN, Mitch L 10.49, sold at 10.65
[07:45 am] skydiver : HANS - rumors
[07:46 am] rusty : GMCR radar
[07:46 am] doji : Observer, the indicators in DNDN are still point up
[07:46 am] observer : You are right, doji.
[07:47 am] observer : I was only looking at the trendline, and should have held longer, thx
[07:48 am] doji : Even in the trendline, price never crossed the 5min MA...anyway, it's a lesson learnt
[07:48 am] observer : always much to learn, doji, I appreciate the lesson
[07:49 am] doji : FSLR nice move today
[07:50 am] doji : I am closing 1/2 DNDN here and trail my second half
[07:50 am] Kris : that's a good plan dojjy[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: SEMG discussed on CNBC
[07:51 am] observer : right back to the trendline on DNDN
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: as WTW
[07:52 am] apple : good one on HOT, zen[07:52 am] rusty : DECK radar
[07:56 am] apple : very nice on SEMG
[07:56 am] skydiver : yes - SEMG - great call ED
[07:59 am] apple : looks like WTW ready for another move up
[08:01 am] doji : WTW did it again... move up with increased volume, kind of "consolidate" in lower volume before it resumed to move higher
[08:01 am] doji : resumed moving up at 62
[08:02 am] skydiver : Well, have fun all -- make lots of $$. Catch you again tomorrow morning. Great day!!
[08:02 am] Ed : c ya sky
[08:02 am] skydiver : thanks again for the great calls ED, Mitch, Kris, Brent, etc. etc. etc. :)
[08:03 am] Kris : have a good one skydiver! see you tomorrow
[08:03 am] doji : Watching WTW
[08:03 am] mikewd2 -: for short doji?
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: i shorted at 63.00
[08:04 am] doji : Yes Mike...
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: stop 63.22 very tight
[08:05 am] richard : MCP
[08:05 am] doji : DECK is now moving down
[08:05 am] doji : Mike, just in case, I am not short in WTW
[08:06 am] apple : are you short doji?
[08:06 am] doji : Neither in DECK Apple...
[08:07 am] joeytsa : FXE in the 52wklow area
[08:08 am] apple : there goes WTW again
[08:08 am] mikewd2 -: yep, second lost
[08:09 am] shark : yeah
[08:09 am] joeytsa : give WTW a few weeks until people end their new years resolutions :)
[08:10 am] pow : SODA turning
[08:10 am] mikewd2 -: 64.35 next resistance
[08:11 am] sfarrill : wtw rising on new year resolution crowd
[08:11 am] mikewd2 -: PANL on the move
[08:11 am] joeytsa : makes sense except that it started on a down note
[08:11 am] Kris : then we should short the hell out of it
[08:11 am] Kris : you know how long new years resolutions last
[08:11 am] Ed : 2 hours
[08:11 am] shark : a week?
[08:13 am] shark : LULU hod[08:14 am] joeytsa : last 3 higher highs on WTW were on neg div...just something to watch
[08:15 am] doji : WTW
[08:15 am] doji : Needs to break 63
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: needs to break the 20ma
[08:16 am] joeytsa : i still use the 15ma, do you find the 20ma better?
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: i like it
[08:16 am] apple : i use the 20
[08:17 am] joeytsa : just got used to the 15, maybe will check it out
[08:17 am] doji : I use the 20
[08:19 am] apple : IDCC lod[08:19 am] doji : NFLX approaching lod[08:20 am] apple : right doji, FSLR hod[08:20 am] joeytsa : Italy's Unicredit with issues
[08:22 am] rusty : BAC hod[08:22 am] rusty : Jan effect at work
[08:22 am] observer : incy new hod[08:23 am] apple : ALXN trending
[08:24 am] shark : nice apple - ALXN
[08:25 am] observer : TPX also trending
[08:25 am] shark : LULU new hod on vol[08:25 am] sfarrill : ZUMZ
[08:29 am] mikewd2 -: Dendreon Provenge acceleration a positive, says Goldman
[08:30 am] observer : TPX a short?
[08:31 am] Kris : TPX not a short for me
[08:31 am] Kris : not enough money coming back into support
[08:31 am] Kris : and still looks to have more upside
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: WTW very close to next major resistance
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: out half PANL 33.05
[08:33 am] apple : late on ZUMZ
[08:35 am] rusty : market down and VIX lod[08:35 am] rusty : hmmm
[08:36 am] rusty : divergence
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: strange - yes?
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: out 1/4 PANL 33.41
[08:43 am] apple : good job mike, missed PANL
[08:43 am] mh : anyone have an opinion on shld here
[08:43 am] mikewd2 -: SHLD scares me, lots of analysis stating 20 target
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: i think rusty swung SHLD long, mh[08:44 am] apple : mike are you S SHLD?
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: no
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: i was playing it long for a while in the 35's, glad i didn't carry it over
[08:45 am] apple : i'll say
[08:45 am] mh : volume jump
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: WFT hod, go baby go
[08:58 am] rusty : re SHLD no one was afraid of buying it at 60 or 120 or 190
[08:58 am] rusty : but everyone afraid to buy it at 30
[08:59 am] rusty : I love this stuff
[08:59 am] apple : it is great, isn't it?
[09:00 am] rusty : Life is good
[09:00 am] rusty : AZO hod[09:00 am] rusty : AZO brought to you by the same charlatans as SHLD
[09:00 am] doji : Hey Rusty, the last time SHLD was this low was back in Nov 2008 when it hit 26.8
[09:00 am] rusty : but no one afraid of buying AZO at the high of course
[09:01 am] rusty : at the highs everyone was saying SHLD is valuable cause of its real estate
[09:01 am] rusty : now no one mentions their real estate
[09:03 am] doji : I guess people is waiting for SHLD to hold 26.8 to jump in.... I'll monitor it also.. thanks for sharing your thoughts
[09:03 am] apple : yes, thx
[09:05 am] apple : there goes WTW again
[09:12 am] victor51 : anyone got in long on WTW
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: in for my third short try on WTW, it's the charm!
[09:12 am] apple : no
[09:13 am] apple : good for you iron mike
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: hopefully 64.35 isn't new support
[09:16 am] mikewd2 -: PANL new hod[09:16 am] mikewd2 -: still trailing last 1/4
[09:16 am] shark : AAPL new hod[09:17 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ new hod[09:17 am] apple : great mike
[09:18 am] mikewd2 -: out AGQ 46.70
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: WFT new hod[09:29 am] joeytsa : shark: funny how AAPL looked weak recently and now a 180
[09:30 am] shark : AAPL rolling
[09:30 am] shark : higher, higher
[09:34 am] shark : joey, are you trading any options this year?
[09:34 am] joeytsa : i will be, not in any right now
[09:34 am] shark : looking at some weeklys?
[09:35 am] shark : GOOG new lod[09:36 am] shark : GOOG dropping on vol[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: discussing SHLD on CNBC
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: short only 11%, surprised a bit
[09:38 am] rusty : Greenberg is a shill [09:40 am] rusty : http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/shld/short-inter est SHLD short interest
[09:40 am] shark : just made 30% on my short GOOG call weeklys - 8 min
[09:40 am] joeytsa : nice trade !!!
[09:41 am] shark : appx +$1300 guys/ladies
[09:41 am] shark : ka ching!
[09:41 am] shark : next....
[09:42 am] Ed : nice going shark
[09:42 am] shark : Thx, Ed, Joey!
[09:42 am] doji : Nice Sharky... it would be nice if you share your ideas.... if you don't mind
[09:42 am] shark : haha[09:44 am] joeytsa : GS quick spike up
[09:46 am] rusty : I am selling at least 1/3 to 1/2 of BAC swing today
[09:46 am] apple : both... nice on GS joey
[09:47 am] shark : WAY TO GO, RUSTY!
[09:47 am] joeytsa : rusty with the $ $
[09:47 am] doji : Wow Rusty, BAC has been a runner this year
[09:47 am] rusty : CNBC recommends short on SHLD = bottom
[09:47 am] apple : haha, rusty, time to buy!
[09:49 am] doji : So BAC just increased its value in 25% since Dec 19th.... hard to believe
[09:49 am] rusty : not hard to believe.... buy when everyone is selling
[09:50 am] rusty : and you will be laughing when they are crying
[09:50 am] rusty : STD another one that can be played like this
[09:51 am] doji : What I am saying Rusty is that nothing has fundamentally changed in BAC to have it now worth 25% higher....
[09:51 am] shark : LULU new hod[09:51 am] joeytsa : just perception maybe
[09:51 am] rusty : right, it doesn't have to
[09:51 am] doji : It just the way the market works
[09:52 am] rusty : nor did fundamentals change when it went from 6 t0 4
[09:52 am] rusty : just perception
[09:52 am] joeytsa : which is why i got away from fundamental
[09:52 am] doji : That is my point, juts perception and once has too capitalize on that.... buy when everyone is selling
[09:52 am] joeytsa : unless i plan to hold something for a long time
[09:53 am] doji : I read somewhere that in order to succeed in the maker you have to have the 3B's.... Brain, Bucks and Bal..... you know that
[09:54 am] joeytsa : don't need too much brains..just enough
[09:54 am] shark : AAPL looks like short term double top -1min chart
[09:56 am] joeytsa : apple: what do you use as a scanner?
[09:57 am] joeytsa : CF moving
[09:57 am] apple : a couple hi/low etrade and another on it
[09:58 am] mikewd2 -: is DSW a e-GAP?
[09:58 am] shark : DSW still looking trendy
[09:58 am] joeytsa : gotya....you keep the risers/fallers up on lightspeed?
[09:58 am] joeytsa : nice move on DSW
[09:58 am] shark : joey, you got your new system fully up to speed?
[09:58 am] apple : yeah
[09:59 am] joeytsa : decent list to check
[09:59 am] joeytsa : yeah shark..loving it
[09:59 am] joeytsa : pretty comfortable with it now..at first it threw me haha[10:00 am] shark : I need a software program where I can press one button and the all charts and graphs open up.
[10:00 am] joeytsa : now i leave it on my one monitor so i can find it
[10:03 am] mikewd2 -: WTW on the move again
[10:04 am] joeytsa : just a monster today mike
[10:04 am] rusty : CNBC noticing BAC now
[10:04 am] joeytsa : so is buffett :)
[10:04 am] rusty : after advising shorting it at 5
[10:04 am] shark : BAC looks weaker than DSW, Mitch
[10:05 am] shark : even AAPL still trending higher
[10:05 am] apple : too quick on the DSW - reversed!
[10:05 am] shark : tons of trending stocks this week
[10:05 am] shark : aaple[10:05 am] doji : DSW and WTW keep moving up
[10:06 am] apple : i seem to have missed all of them shark!
[10:06 am] joeytsa : sure are shark...mutual funds?
[10:06 am] shark : I think they could last another week as funds move money into new positions
[10:06 am] joeytsa : good lesson to remember next jan[10:06 am] mhaus : WTW new highs
[10:08 am] shark : PHM up 5.5% -almost 100% in 3 months
[10:09 am] shark : I spent $300 there last month, Mitch
[10:09 am] apple : i wished i would have known that much earlier today!
[10:09 am] shark : you know, gotta have designer tennis shoes
[10:09 am] joeytsa : new shoes for all of the wtw weight loss
[10:09 am] doji : I agree with Shark... MF are buying these stocks to rebalance their portfolios and look better than they performed in 2011
[10:10 am] shark : apple -if you look at the daily on DSW -looks pretty good to continue uptrend
[10:10 am] joeytsa : doji: plus you get jan contributions etc[10:11 am] doji : Now NFLX is also moving
[10:11 am] shark : DSW -highest daily vol since Nov 30
[10:12 am] mhaus : SODA moving
[10:13 am] rusty : putting WFM on radar for a swing short
[10:13 am] rusty : best to watch it end of day
[10:13 am] shark : DECK, CROX following trend with DSW
[10:15 am] rusty : Gartman bullish on gold again
[10:15 am] rusty : Gartman said to short gold lower, now he's bullish higher
[10:16 am] joeytsa : he's flexible haha[10:16 am] yves : Are we watching DSW for short? It is going higher and higher.
[10:16 am] rusty : flexible and a fraud lol[10:16 am] doji : No Yves... the market is too strong
[10:17 am] rusty : http://business.financialpost.com/2012/01/05/ gartman-admits-he-made-a-blown-call-on-gold/< br /> [10:17 am] yves : So we can't short it.
[10:17 am] apple : yves, it reversed itself earlier, look at the comments. MK and everyone else said.
[10:17 am] joeytsa : again, that's why i stopped trying to "predict" things, and just react
[10:17 am] mikewd2 -: you can yves, but i shorted WTW 3 times and i'm 0 for 3
[10:18 am] victor51 : DSW is trending up like WTW. May be WTW pushing designer work out shoes from DSW...
[10:18 am] mikewd2 -: btw, i'm in my 4th attempt on WTW now
[10:19 am] joeytsa : when WTW does crack, it should give a nice profit
[10:19 am] victor51 : My hats off to Mike. i tried twice and I am out
[10:19 am] mikewd2 -: haven't lost that much
[10:19 am] shark : SODA & Kraft, sounds like cheese soda to me
[10:20 am] go4it : I'm waiting for the 3 min macd to cross hope that won't be too late
[10:21 am] mikewd2 -: fall baby fall
[10:22 am] khall : that's right mikewd2
[10:22 am] doji : Keep pushing down Mike....I am not in the trade but I am on your side..
[10:22 am] apple : mike, you kill me!
[10:23 am] rusty : WTW candles showing signs of topping
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: one last gunslinger for old times
[10:23 am] doji : Were you long in WTW Apple?
[10:23 am] apple : no, i kept thinking about it too long...
[10:23 am] rusty : pardon not WTW, i meant DSW
[10:24 am] doji : DSW dropping
[10:28 am] apple : NFLX moving again
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: can someone on TS tell me how to select which shares to sell, ie last in first out.
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: can't figure it out
[10:30 am] shark : sounds like a question for the accountant, mikewd2
[10:30 am] shark : in general, if you hold a stock for more than 1 year = long term capital gains
[10:30 am] mikewd2 -: not the question shark.
[10:30 am] shark : less than 1 year =short term capital gains
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: i often trade last in first out, easy to select on etrade[10:31 am] lisas : Mike, is this a day trade?
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: can't figure out how on TS
[10:31 am] shark : CMG positive on day =new hod[10:32 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[10:32 am] shark : DSW pulling back, testing 50 min ma
[10:33 am] lisas : I've never even thought about it, I'm guessing you searched help. I'd call them and talk to platform help
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: will do
[10:36 am] rusty : re WFM swing short....will look to enter 74+
[10:36 am] doji : Watch NFLX to break 80
[10:36 am] lisas : Mike, or ask the order desk.
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: come on down WTW
[10:38 am] doji : Time to close your short in WTW Mike....?
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: covered half WTW, shorted 67.00
[10:38 am] doji : NFLX long 80.06
[10:39 am] doji : We just need some news from EU to have nice shorts... hahaha[10:41 am] yves : Doji, NFLX long or short?
[10:41 am] apple : yves, he's L
[10:42 am] yves : Thank you
[10:42 am] yves : Nice move Doji[10:43 am] doji : Long Yves sorry
[10:44 am] doji : I am trailing my stop on NFLX just in case it reverses very quick...
[10:45 am] yves : How come you long Doji? I was thinking of short.
[10:45 am] doji : Yves, the market is trending up and 80 is a round resistance that was broken with above average volume
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: out 1/4 WTW 64.7
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: tailing last 1/4
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: 4th time short was the charm! lol[10:47 am] Brent : nice rejection off the 200ma on the WTW daily
[10:48 am] yves : We are looking for long in WTW, right? Please let me know when ready.
[10:49 am] apple : thx MK, K, B, E and everyone. i am leaving early today. all have a wonderful evening.
[10:50 am] Brent : have a good night apple
[10:50 am] Kris : take care apple
[10:51 am] yves : WTW jumps up
[10:51 am] joeytsa : nice trade mike, told you that when WTW cracked you would get a nice profit
[10:51 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, up nice on this - doubled my position on the 4th attempt
[10:52 am] joeytsa : gunslinger
[10:52 am] Brent : even Tebow completes the long bomb once in awhile
[10:52 am] joeytsa : gotta pull the trigger..at least that's what elway says
[10:52 am] doji : You definitely have the 3 Bs Mike!
[10:52 am] doji : Good for you!
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: needed the 4th bullet today
[10:53 am] joeytsa : just a good trade, broke the 15ma, tested it and all down from there
[10:53 am] lisas : Looking at top of WTW, looks just like Mitch talked about before Christmas, got kind of choppy.
[10:54 am] joeytsa : large vol around 10:05pst might have been an early signal?
[10:55 am] doji : WFM reversing
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: out WTW covered last 1/4 64.24 - lets go long now! haha[10:56 am] joeytsa : the 1:05 for you lisa[10:56 am] lisas : looks like you might get more mike
[10:57 am] joeytsa : WTW just about back down to where that last run up took off from
[10:59 am] zentrader : IDCC
[11:01 am] yves : Any idea on WTW now?
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: went long 64.25
[11:03 am] yves : Thanks mike
[11:04 am] mikewd2 -: right when the stochastics broke the 20
[11:05 am] mikewd2 -: looking for only 1%, going for quick trades
[11:05 am] lisas : good call on idcc zen, too bad I missed it. Little slow today
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: out WTW 65
[11:06 am] doji : You are on the money today Mike!
[11:06 am] joeytsa : nice one mike
[11:07 am] mikewd2 -: hit that high bounce
[11:07 am] lisas : lol, you must have been the market mike, looked how it crashed when you sold
[11:08 am] mikewd2 -: yeah those 200 shares big movers - haha[11:08 am] joeytsa : nice call on IDCC zen !!!!
[11:08 am] mikewd2 -: wow, hope someone shorted DSW
[11:09 am] lisas : I did, but sold on the bounce, should have kept watching
[11:10 am] doji : I shorted it at 45.71 and still holding it
[11:10 am] doji : I posted here when it dropped just in case someone ask
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: nice doji[11:11 am] doji : but I missed WTW Mike... hahaha[11:11 am] rusty : SHLD nice bottom call by CNBC at 29
[11:11 am] doji : Didn't they said short SHLD? Shame on CNBC as usual
[11:12 am] rusty : yup, short at 29
[11:13 am] doji : hahaha... Rusty, you are the man.... frycook[11:14 am] joeytsa : AMZN hod[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: joey, are you short CRM?
[11:14 am] joeytsa : no should i be..been watching other stuff
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: not necessarily, you are just always on top that stock
[11:15 am] joeytsa : if it breaks below this pivot, might fall $1
[11:15 am] joeytsa : yeah i usually do, was focused on WTW,AMZN
[11:16 am] joeytsa : looks like a decent r/r
[11:16 am] doji : SPY moving down..
[11:16 am] joeytsa : wished the stochs were topping though
[11:17 am] mikewd2 -: WTW continues to fall
[11:17 am] mikewd2 -: as DSW
[11:17 am] joeytsa : yeah that lower high on WTW, nice signal
[11:17 am] joeytsa : just broke below vwap too
[11:17 am] mikewd2 -: looking to go long 63.4'ish
[11:17 am] doji : My first target in DSW is at VWAP @ 43.56
[11:18 am] doji : WTW at VWAP already
[11:18 am] doji : ey Mike, did you short WTW after your long again?
[11:18 am] mikewd2 -: no, should have
[11:19 am] joeytsa : the short was the good play, the long was the risky one :)
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: just went long again
[11:19 am] joeytsa : both worked though
[11:19 am] doji : I did but very small position... had to take revenge...
[11:19 am] doji : The SPY should help now
[11:21 am] doji : Come on SPY..
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: push WTW
[11:23 am] joeytsa : be careful mike
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: was thinking about adding
[11:24 am] joeytsa : biggest candle on that cons was red, needs to hold here for you
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: but will hold off
[11:25 am] joeytsa : let the stock give you a reason to add before you do
[11:28 am] doji : Indicators in WTW and DSW still pointing down in 2min charts
[11:28 am] doji : and the SPY is giving them a little push to the down side
[11:30 am] zentrader : ANR
[11:31 am] doji : nice short in WTW and DSW
[11:36 am] joeytsa : lightning: much easier on the eyes since i took off the crosshairs
[11:37 am] joeytsa : you still get the time below and price to the right
[11:37 am] mikewd2 -: CRM primed for another drop?
[11:38 am] joeytsa : looks like it wants to set up that way
[11:38 am] joeytsa : market weakness will help
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: i'm just watching not in the trade
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: on CRM
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: still long WTW
[11:39 am] joeytsa : yes on CRM mike...i got in when you brought it up earlier
[11:39 am] doji : I close halves of my shrt positions in WTW and DSW... trailing the second ones
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: man, you should have told me.
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: haha - nice
[11:39 am] joeytsa : sorry was trying to help you on WTW :)
[11:39 am] pow : mitch, stocks trending like DSW would be nice to catch on the rise and the fall. Can you add it to your service for us to share these rising trending ones so we can catch both sides?
[11:41 am] doji : WTW and DSW around over 38% retracement from the top
[11:41 am] doji : Next should be 50% retracement or around???
[11:42 am] joeytsa : you follow fibs doji?
[11:42 am] doji : I just follow the 38%, 50% and 62% retracements on the big movers as a reference to close my positions... just that
[11:43 am] doji : and obviously the 20, 50 and 200 MA
[11:43 am] doji : and the VWAP
[11:43 am] joeytsa : CRM moved up and touched me out
[11:43 am] joeytsa : right, do you have them drawn on your charts?
[11:44 am] doji : No, I just make a quick calculation and have them as reference....
[11:44 am] joeytsa : i feel like i have enough lines on my charts...so i just eyeball anything else
[11:44 am] joeytsa : oh ok
[11:45 am] khall : CEO of Sandridge on Cramer tonight. Bet the stock pops tomorrow. They are talking about what a great value the company is
[11:46 am] joeytsa : best part of his show are those interviews
[11:46 am] khall : I love those interviews
[11:47 am] khall : of course, nobody is going to get on there and say their company is crap
[11:47 am] mikewd2 -: SD popping now
[11:48 am] joeytsa : no, but the market will know
[11:49 am] joeytsa : thanks for CRM mike, that first stop saved my profit
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: good
[11:50 am] joeytsa : you still in WTW? a little range bound rigth now
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: stop just below the 1:31 low
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: 1:34
[11:51 am] joeytsa : nice
[11:52 am] mikewd2 -: was looking for SINA to break to the upside
[11:53 am] joeytsa : broke out a bit on that hold of 52.78
[11:53 am] zentrader : WBMD
[11:54 am] mikewd2 -: big jump zen, didn't see news
[11:54 am] Ed : nice one zen[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: WebMD shares move up after Bloomberg says Yahoo! put asset on its "wish list"
[11:59 am] rusty : for those risk tolerant might be time to consider selling some naked calls on CMG
[11:59 am] rusty : for a trade
[11:59 am] zentrader : yes, that was a sweet one, anyone else get it?
[12:00 pm] qwert : small piece thx zen[12:04 pm] rusty : SHLD near hod[12:04 pm] rusty : today's candle on SHLD = hammer
[12:04 pm] rusty : with volume
[12:05 pm] rusty : have to see how it closes to determine whether to add to position
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: added to WTW L 63.35
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: stops 63.10
[12:07 pm] joeytsa : yeah rusty, you do really good work
[12:08 pm] doji : WTW and DSW frozen...
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : always looking further out, not just a scalp
[12:10 pm] rusty : we got a good mix of styles here
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : yeah, good to see other things
[12:11 pm] rusty : i'm not always available for the daytrade...so moved my time horizon out a bit....funny part is you can use the same techniques in swing vs daytrading[12:11 pm] doji : Thanks for the call in SHLD. Although I didn't take it long, the experience is worth a million
[12:11 pm] doji : and as you I am only available about 30% for day trading...
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : correct rusty
[12:12 pm] rusty : doji the difference shorting a call v buying a put....buying a put you can lose only the price you pay for the put
[12:13 pm] rusty : shorting a call is like shorting a stock....risk is theoretically infinite
[12:13 pm] rusty : as if the stock goes higher than the exercise price...you will be short the stock
[12:14 pm] doji : I know that but why you short a call instead of buying a put?
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : maybe to bring in some cash?
[12:14 pm] rusty : sure...and to take advantage of all the bullish premium
[12:14 pm] doji : No, why to take the additional risk shorting the call
[12:15 pm] doji : Ah... got it know, it's the premium....
[12:15 pm] lisas : How many of you experienced traders elect traders status for taxes?
[12:15 pm] rusty : it's risky and not for the faint of heart of course....but oftentimes that call will expire worthless and you can collect the whole bullish premium
[12:15 pm] rusty : exactly
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : rusty, have you tried that with the weeklys[12:16 pm] doji : You are the man Rusty... make sense, the higher the profit the higher the risk
[12:16 pm] rusty : haven't done much with weeklys...except to study them
[12:16 pm] rusty : still learning daily options
[12:16 pm] rusty : so much to learn there
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : lots to learn, but love the quick turnaround
[12:17 pm] rusty : so when everyone is bullish the calls have that nice premium and you hope to collect it
[12:17 pm] doji : Excuse my ignorance in options, I only know daily options. What is a weekly besides its name?
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : followed them more a while back, need to get back into them
[12:17 pm] rusty : I do the opposite with trying to buy bottoms....sell the puts, rather than buy calls
[12:17 pm] rusty : it's all a question of risk tolerance
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : right, good strategy for earnings also
[12:18 pm] rusty : lisa, i use trader status
[12:18 pm] rusty : also http://www.traderstatus.com
[12:18 pm] rusty : lotta good info there
[12:18 pm] lisas : are options treated like stocks or like futures?
[12:19 pm] lisas : Thanks for link
[12:19 pm] rusty : futures totally different tax treatment...better than stocks
[12:19 pm] rusty : I believe
[12:20 pm] rusty : options are similar to stock treatment iirc but I am not an expert here
[12:21 pm] mikewd2 -: stopped on WTW, i'm done with that one
[12:21 pm] lisas : yeah, I've been looking at that, problem is I trade both, so it looks like I hurt myself for trader status on futures
[12:21 pm] tron111 : jva is moving up, is it a good short term swing trade?
[12:22 pm] doji : You went long in WTW Mike?
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah
[12:22 pm] joeytsa : last i thought, futures were split 60/40 between longterm/shorterm gains
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: didn't lose much, overall big gain on WTW today
[12:22 pm] rusty : yes i believe that's correct
[12:22 pm] rusty : and people wonder why the market is volatile
[12:22 pm] rusty : futures are one of the reasons
[12:23 pm] rusty : especially with the favorable tax treatment
[12:23 pm] doji : My next target is 62 in WTW or 50% retracement... hope it will reach there before the market close
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : not bad mike, only prob was that you tried to buck the trend
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: your right joey
[12:24 pm] rusty : next time you see a capitulation in a stock, either panic buying or selling...take a look at the options...you will learn a lot
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : both ways i think right
[12:24 pm] rusty : and also learn to press or leverage your better bets
[12:24 pm] rusty : rather than betting the same on every hand so to speak
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : good point rusty
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : i usually lower my shares if i am in a slump, and only press when things are going well
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : i do the same at the casinos
[12:25 pm] Ed : tron111, u speaking of day or swing trade
[12:25 pm] rusty : e.g. I sold the FSLR 28 puts couple of weeks back for $2
[12:25 pm] doji : You mean, for instance, like SHLD... you take it long and also short outs, correct Rusty?
[12:26 pm] doji : short puts
[12:26 pm] victor51 : Mike, do you think KodiaK will move with SD??
[12:26 pm] tron111 : jva for swing trade, to hold for few days.
[12:27 pm] rusty : those FSLR puts I sold for 2-2.40 now look at them
[12:27 pm] rusty : they will likely expire worthless
[12:27 pm] doji : Hey Rusty, do you think you can write me a couple of examples on this discussion? I'll appreciate a lot
[12:28 pm] rusty : FSLR a good example
[12:28 pm] Ed : it's at a key spot, but I never like idea of shorting into strong buying
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : MELI quick spike up
[12:29 pm] rusty : I didn't mind owning FSLR at 26....so when it was trading at 30... sold the 28 puts for $2+ - that got me into FSLR long for a cost basis of less than $26
[12:30 pm] rusty : the $2 I collected in premium reduced my basis
[12:30 pm] lisas : Rusty, do you need enough in your account to actually purchase the stock when you sell puts?
[12:31 pm] rusty : SHLD would be to sell puts into extreme weakness
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : WTW down $5 from the high
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: should have stayed with the short!
[12:32 pm] rusty : lisa, not sure if you do, but it would be advisable....as if you don't have that amount you probably shouldn't be shorting options anyway, much too risky
[12:32 pm] Ed : was speaking of daily, since it is forming bullish engulfing pattern
[12:33 pm] lisas : Not planning on it anytime soon, but learning options is on my "to do" list for the year.
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : tons of things you can do with options
[12:33 pm] lisas : I know they have different requirements for what you have to have in your account, but don't know what is what yet
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : butterflies,condors, strangles etc[12:34 pm] doji : closing my short in DSW and WTW
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : finally settled down to just buying calls,puts[12:34 pm] mikewd2 -: awesome job doji[12:35 pm] joeytsa : real nice doji[12:35 pm] rusty : Even if you don't trade them it give you a good insight into volatility
[12:35 pm] zentrader : S DNDN 10.56
[12:35 pm] joeytsa : rusty: you look at the greeks?
[12:35 pm] rusty : and often gets you in or out of a stock cheaper than buying or selling the common
[12:36 pm] rusty : nah, closest to Greek I do is feta cheese in my omelet. I try to keep it basic
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : i only follow delta [12:37 pm] chinhngo : joeyta delta from option [12:37 pm] joeytsa : yes chinhngo: the delta on an option
[12:37 pm] rusty : Next bullshort that Mitch calls....we should look at the options if they are available
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : i like deep itm options, delta around 80
[12:38 pm] rusty : can make good $ as long as you understand the risk
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : and not have to shell out as much money
[12:38 pm] rusty : Lenny Dykstra (Cramer's favorite options player) liked Deep ITM calls
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : 1000 shares of WTW around $62k, 10 calls much cheaper :)
[12:39 pm] doji : Thanks Joey and Rusty for sharing your thoughts
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : gives you some support, esp around the 80 delta
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : you get most of the upside, if stock drops you lose less
[12:40 pm] mikewd2 -: for longs, i tend to buy deep in the money calls - to reduce the time value premium
[12:40 pm] rusty : I am better at the trotters than the flats
[12:40 pm] rusty : :-)
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : I'm just average at best at the trotter
[12:41 pm] rusty : I think the trotters give you an edge in handicapping
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : mike: on swings, i usually buy anywhere form 1-3months past my "sell date"
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: rusty: you still have VXX?
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : i getter more edge at flats..more dummies playing haha[12:43 pm] rusty : lol[12:43 pm] rusty : yes mike
[12:43 pm] rusty : about 1/4
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: WBMD bouncing again
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: was thinking about getting back in
[12:44 pm] joeytsa : trail MELI if you got in
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: VXX that is
[12:46 pm] rusty : I'm waiting to add
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: i will to, i'm out next week
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: trying to reduce most of my portfolio
[12:46 pm] rusty : I try to play VIX on the extreme moves rather than in between
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : gonna take you awhile when you have 3m shares of NFLX :)
[12:47 pm] rusty : lol[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: i haven't touched NFLX in a while, lost to much - again on wrong side of trend
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: i'm holding my big positions, CJES, WFT, FST
[12:47 pm] rusty : when everyone gets bullish on the VIX that's the time to sell it
[12:47 pm] rusty : and vice versa
[12:48 pm] rusty : WPI ALERT
[12:48 pm] rusty : WPI ALERT
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : thanks rusty
[12:51 pm] rusty : ESI radar
[12:54 pm] rusty : would really like CMG to breakout to sell those calls
[12:58 pm] Ed : nice one rusty
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : another day of great calls
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : nice call rusty on WPI
[12:59 pm] lisas : got a little out of wpi, thank!
[12:59 pm] qwert : wpi another drop in the bucket thx rusty
[01:09 pm] rusty : JAZZ radar if anyone around
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