Chat Highlights From 01/03/2013

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[06:30 am] Ed : DG
[06:31 am] Ed : on MLNX would use 48.90 for short with strong vol
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching STI for bottom,  trying 28.25 area
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching FDO for trades both ways
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching CCI for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching FSLR for short, prefer 32.65 area
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching LTD for bottom, trades bot ways
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching ALLT for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching JWN for short
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching DLTR for bottom
[06:35 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:35 am] Mitch K: monitoring PIR
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching DICC for top
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching CPHD for bottom, take more time
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching AFL for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching HAIN for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching SSI for bottom, low vol
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring HRL, Hormel foods
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring EL if trends up today
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching DLTR for short on top of bounce
[06:36 am] Mitch K: change opinion about PIR, should continue up when SPY turns up
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching APKT for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching CNH for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: DDD should bounce soon
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching APC for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching AAPL for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching FIO for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: APC bouncing
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching MYGN for 2nd helping bottom, missed first
[06:39 am] Mitch K: BGMD worth watching today
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching SPWR for trades both ways
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching BCR for short on top of bounce soon
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching PKT for bottom
[06:42 am] Ed : if u took short would cover some here FDO
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching KSS for top to short soon, missed bottom
[06:42 am] Ed : FDO new lod
[06:42 am] Mitch K: more upside for ROST, trending stock
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching PKT closer
[06:45 am] Mitch K: still watching ALLT
[06:45 am] Ed : would reduce some if u took DG long
[06:46 am] Mitch K: SPY bouncing, more upside for long positions
[06:46 am] Mitch K: more upside on DDD
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching LTD for 45.50 area, be flexible
[06:46 am] Ed : BIIB  monitor the 146 area for ADanced traders
[06:46 am] Mitch K: STI bouncing
[06:47 am] Mitch K: SPWR is up on FSLR sympathy move
[06:47 am] Mitch K: still watching FSLR but take time for any short, strong today, bullish market
[06:48 am] Mitch K: more down for SSI
[06:49 am] Mitch K: soon
[06:49 am] Mitch K: looking for long exit on DDD
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching FIRE but low vol
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching ALLT closer, getting interesting
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching TGT for bottom
[06:53 am] Mitch K: NFLX toppy
[06:53 am] Mitch K: ROST turning over
[06:53 am] Ed : passing on BIIB  for now trading in 1.5 point range
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching M for bottom, missed short
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching FTNT for bottom
[06:55 am] Mitch K: looking to exit APC long
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching /PL, Platinum, good movement
[06:57 am] Mitch K: monitoring MR
[06:57 am] Mitch K: monitoring QIHU, no hurry
[06:57 am] Mitch K: also watching /NG Natural Gas
[06:57 am] Mitch K: ALLT trying to bounce here
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching HRL for bounce
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching M closer
[06:58 am] Mitch K: FTNT trying to bounce
[06:59 am] Mitch K: the monitor HRL for 2nd short
[07:00 am] Ed : monitoring EXPE
[07:02 am] Ed : Advanced traders monitor the 30ish area on GM
[07:03 am] Ed : no hurry on EXPE
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching HSH drop
[07:04 am] Mitch K: no life in ALLT
[07:05 am] Ed : Advanced traders monitor ALLT for cont. weakness and loss of 13.80ish with strong vol for potential short
[07:08 am] Ed : would cont to monitor if it flirts with lows, dont fixate though
[07:08 am] Ed : was no vol on new lod on ALLT so did not play
[07:12 am] Mitch K: also monitoring another health care stock, WLP
[07:12 am] Mitch K: monitoring HUM
[07:13 am] Mitch K: MR giving good short, repeat of yesterday on smaller scale but still good
[07:15 am] Mitch K: watching /CL Crude for bottom next 2-3 candles
[07:15 am] Mitch K: only looking for 7-10 ticks on long side
[07:17 am] Ed : keep an eye on HNR for increase in vol and setup for potential short
[07:19 am] Ed : lower high on SPY and getting pullback
[07:21 am] Ed : nice bounce in FDO off the bottom
[07:22 am] Mitch K: should get over 93 on CL, weak though still
[07:25 am] Ed : QCOR
[07:26 am] Mitch K: HUN keeps spiking up,
[07:26 am] Ed : very risky LPH
[07:27 am] Mitch K: watching MR for trades both ways
[07:27 am] Mitch K: PL 03-13 worth watching for long entry, good practice on simulator (sim)
[07:28 am] Mitch K: HRL acting like a credible buyout rumor, just guessing by trading action
[07:29 am] Mitch K: 03-13 better Joey, more vol
[07:30 am] Ed : I would not trade it if ur not consistent in ur trading
[07:30 am] Ed : LPH is good chart to study, from standpoint of nice drop, weak bounce and cont. rollover
[07:31 am] Ed : very dangerous but good chart to lern from
[07:32 am] Ed : patterns repeat no matter price of stock
[07:46 am] Ed : will trail last 1/4 of QCOR short
[07:46 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 of QCOR short
[07:50 am] Mitch K: HLF not the kind of day trade short scalp i like, looks sustainable uptrend to me
[07:56 am] Mitch K: monitoring AFL for bottom, no hurry
[07:58 am] Mitch K: monitoring THOR, slow drop
[08:13 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[08:19 am] Ed : RIG planned settlement for deepwater disaster
[08:21 am] Ed : settlement will resolve criminal and civil  claims RIG
[08:22 am] Ed : thx joey and murano on GME/RIG
[09:06 am] Mitch K: watching PL 03-13 for long
[09:11 am] Ed : NUS added to buy list at Deutsche Bank
[09:13 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[09:14 am] Mitch K: i am toying with this idea to create a separate/additional version of lightning that would have only a handful of signals per day in a futures instrument that usually have long hold times.  For example, a signal at 7:20:55 am pacific time on NG 03-13 this morning to buy long at 3.185 and a matching sell signal came at 8:56:59 am for $3.224.  hold time was over 86 minutes.  I dont know if it can be done but would be really useful.  you guys like that idea?
[09:16 am] Mitch K: by putting it on its own chart would make it much easier to follow.  I like the idea but not sure if it will be technically too challenging to work with.  an alternative is to have a different color identifying the long term hold strategy
[09:20 am] Mitch K: a longer time frame helps remove many signals but as you know, you give up quite a bit of money from the peak price to the signal on longer term intervals.  we are developing an algo that gets the best of both worlds, good tight signals without giving up as much money before a signal arrives and a long hold time
[09:23 am] Mitch K: ok here is another one on the 1 min chart for CL 02-13 this morning at 721am pst which was a buy signal at $92.90 and a sell signal at $93.21 almost 2  hours later
[09:24 am] Mitch K: that trade wasnt a big profit but what i am getting at is a lot of traders are not as active and this would be an easier lifestyle to maintain, less busy but high percentage winning rate and higher profit per trade overall
[09:25 am] Ed : RIG confirms agreement with justice dept
[09:26 am] Mitch K: joey, the smaller trades in between has to be done in a different account since you are not able to be long and short in the same instrument in the same brokerage account.
[10:07 am] Ed : tight trading range in SPY
[10:35 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[10:47 am] Ed : 10:46 am] Ed : nasdaq reporting stale data thats 10 minutes old
[10:46 am] Ed : nasdaq reporting stale data thats 10 minutes old
[10:53 am] Ed : Naz says issues mostly fixed
[11:00 am] Ed : FOMC minutes
[11:08 am] Mitch K: SPY just off bottom
[11:09 am] Mitch K: thats a 3 to 1 leveraged long
[11:09 am] Mitch K: looking for tradable long for TNA soon
[11:10 am] Mitch K: i think that is based on a small cap bull, like Russell 2000
[11:13 am] Mitch K: FYI, if you ever were on the road traveling and were not actually trading much you could go to freestockcharts.com and get real time charts.  only if you are in a bind and need some charts with data
[11:16 am] Mitch K: it is not for professional use for full time trading, i only might need it if traveling
[11:23 am] Mitch K: joey, getting that longer term long entry
[11:23 am] Mitch K: looking for CL bounce here, soon
[11:24 am] Mitch K: that comment joey is a short term trade, this could last an hour
[11:31 am] Mitch K: came at 92.91
[11:31 am] Mitch K: joey, if you took that long entry around 92.82 on CL, i got an early sell signal on it, surprised it came so soon
[11:37 am] Ed : nice one on FFIV
[11:38 am] Ed : good eye murano
[11:40 am] Ed : SPY nearing lod
[11:52 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[12:18 pm] Ed : SPY nearing lod
[12:21 pm] Ed : SPY new lod
[12:23 pm] Ed : lower low on SPY
[12:32 pm] Ed : SPY new lod
[12:48 pm] Ed : nice bounce in SPY
[12:54 pm] Ed : SPY nearing lod

[06:12 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, everyone
[06:12 am] khall  : Good morning all!
[06:13 am] taco  : good mornin, futures are fun
[06:13 am] qwert  : Good morning to everybody
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : gap downs: BIIB,MLNX,FDO,DLTR,KSS
[06:13 am] cowboyh  : gm all
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gap up: ROST,TGT,GPS
[06:14 am] taco  : thanks joey
[06:14 am] shark  : gm all, thx joey
[06:14 am] qwert  : thx joey ALLT big gap down as well
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : thx qwert
[06:15 am] shark  : USD/JPY weak overnight
[06:16 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : some really nice futures trades the past hour
[06:20 am] khall  : yeah, wonder if Nat Gas will try to bounce here a bit.  Still looking pretty weak today
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : watching /ES range 1454-1457, pp @ 1453 area
[06:28 am] skydiver  : gm all - thnx joey and qwert
[06:29 am] shark  : CMG down $6 pre -some res @300
[06:30 am] joeytsa  : lots of moves on retailers
[06:31 am] elisha  : GM all
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : watching LTD also with the other stores
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : DDD pullbing back
[06:33 am] scalpman  : sell 1/2 DG L
[06:33 am] scalpman  : alla out DG L
[06:33 am] scalpman  : out
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : tighten BIIB if long
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : /PL range 1574.50,1576.50  looking for break either way
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : HRL bought jiffy peanut butter i believe
[06:38 am] skydiver  : yes joey - they are having conference call right now on the aqusition
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : thx sky
[06:39 am] skydiver  : :)
[06:40 am] shark  : watching LULU for bottom
[06:40 am] joeytsa  : yeah Mitch, BGMD had a good test result
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : KSS coming into $43 area, tighten if long
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : not sure it will make it
[06:46 am] mikewd2 -: low priced stock SONS - be careful
[06:46 am] qwert  : ALLT getting interesting
[06:46 am] scalpman  : sell 1/2 ROST L
[06:47 am] skydiver  : short HRL 33.42
[06:47 am] scalpman  : sell another 1/4 ROST L
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : SPWR up because they sold 2 power plants projects
[06:47 am] scalpman  : Holding last piece at b.e.
[06:48 am] scalpman  : all out ROST L
[06:48 am] joeytsa  : /GC coming into res area
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : BIDU decent so far
[06:49 am] mikewd2 -: QCOR
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : tighten GPS if short
[06:50 am] joeytsa  : thx for ALLT qwert  :)
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : khall: did you get that /NG move
[06:52 am] khall  : no - I got the down move pre market
[06:53 am] khall  : missed the up move - was looking at )
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : nice going
[06:53 am] khall  : other things I was going to type - thanks
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : some really great trades today
[06:56 am] skydiver  : all out of HRL short
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : /PL has been a good
[06:58 am] taco  : +2% ALLT holding last 1/4
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: watching EXPE
[07:00 am] joeytsa  : BIDU over $106 now, tighten if long
[07:00 am] joeytsa  : AAPL,AMZN,BIDU,SINA,GOOG all near hod areas
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: GM sales dec up 4.9%, est 1.9
[07:01 am] taco  : closed ALLT with trail stop
[07:02 am] shark  : DDD testing hod area, all out
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : lets hope so Ed, but $14 is trying to hold
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: QIHU toppy?
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : i lowered my stop to 14.20, will trail down
[07:06 am] taco  : s HLF 33.12
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : stopped at 14.15, was short from 14.36
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: HLF doesn't seem to want to go below 33, taco
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: i was about to go long on next test
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : /GC pushed right thru res area
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : watching $38 for M
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : markets getting some buying
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : mike: here is your $33 retest on HLF
[07:13 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, but my TS hung - haha
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : same thing as yesterday?
[07:14 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, couldn't keep madscan up
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : sorry
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : WTW on a nice run today
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : expected it to do something after new years day with people making weightloss resolutions
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: dang meant to follow WTW
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : yeah me too haha
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : right there with you Mitch
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : both /PL,GC made nice quick trades from range breaks
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: missed my HLF entry at 33.00
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : still a nice call
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: candles told me
[07:18 am] Ed : they allowed u to see
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: no i have audio candles enabled - lol
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : doji around 7:14pdt?
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : or hammer-type
[07:19 am] Ed : very interesting
[07:19 am] lisas  : audio candles? for real?
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: no, just kidding - haha
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch's next project!
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : was decent 3:1 r/r trade with entry @ $33, stop 32.90, target 33..40
[07:20 am] Ed : its true, u know those texans
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, exactly
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : actually 4:1
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, the audio candles have a bit of a "draw"
[07:20 am] lisas  : darn, darn, darn! Ed would have been smoking with those
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : sure was
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : missed it though
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : looking for buy signal soon on /PL
[07:21 am] khall  : Lightning V3 - audio candles ;-)
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : thx Mitch
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: HLF moving
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : yeah, missed that 2nd entry point too
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : ALLT gave nice 50c bounce too
[07:28 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: im using PL 04-13
[07:28 am] mikewd2 -: watching FST at 7.30 previous resistance, need break thru
[07:29 am] joeytsa  : thanks, 04-13 was the default for me
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : i have much better action on 04-13 for some reason
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : lower vol KEX just got a spike up
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : good point Ed
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : should get a /NG buy signal cover soon
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: FDO moving up again
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : there's your $93 on crude Mitch, nice call
[07:34 am] shark  : PIR @R2
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: watch for break above 57.10 on FDO
[07:35 am] shark  : watching LULU
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : there's the /NG signal
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : decent short
[07:39 am] joeytsa  : break time, fun day so far, see you in 20
[07:39 am] skydiver  : take care joey
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: HLF over 34.00
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: jan put looking better
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: naked put that is
[07:45 am] qwert  : monitoring MOS
[07:47 am] Ed : nice trend up on HLF
[07:47 am] mikewd2 -: watching FDO
[07:49 am] apple  : good morning all - how is everybody doing today?
[07:49 am] scalpman  : No shorts HLF at TS
[07:50 am] taco  : IB has them scalp
[07:51 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[07:51 am] shark  : hi apple
[07:51 am] apple  : hey sky
[07:51 am] apple  : hey shark
[07:51 am] scalpman  : Yes...thanks mitch
[07:51 am] apple  : MK which is what you mentioned the other day -- $36 level
[07:51 am] taco  : thanks Mitch, old habbits still alive
[07:52 am] taco  : but waning
[07:52 am] apple  : it has been a gradual climb
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: sure does Mitch
[07:53 am] taco  : hi apple, alls good:)
[07:53 am] apple  : good one taco
[07:55 am] apple  : chinese stock
[07:56 am] Ed : hey taco, when one has habits that affects trading, one has to do something to undo those bad habits
[07:56 am] apple  : good advice E
[07:57 am] taco  : yes sir, such as?
[07:57 am] Ed : What you want to do is identify thos things that are holding you back from being successful and consistent as a trader
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: taco: i have the worst bad habits. But this is new year and not going to do them anymore.
[07:58 am] Ed : and write them down (this helps to acknowledge)
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: work on a day trading plan and stick to it.
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: been very helpful to me last few days.
[07:58 am] taco  : good stuff thanks guys
[07:59 am] Ed : in writing trading plan this will help, look in documents folder
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: important stuff - else you will not last day trading - trust me.
[07:59 am] Ed : additionally since we all have bad habits we have to deprogram the junk so to speake and inpute better habits
[07:59 am] jsn13  : thanks mike for FDO, out half at 56.91 from 56.54..
[07:59 am] Ed : How does one do this, this has to be worked on evey single day
[08:00 am] mikewd2 -: yeah losing weight is easier than breaking bad stock trading habits!!!!
[08:00 am] Ed : just as quick example if you overtrade stocks, you have to have a counter to help such as only trading the stock at most 2x regardless, and no more
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: on my list Ed!
[08:01 am] taco  : even the really juicy ones??
[08:01 am] taco  : guilty and accept
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: yes taco
[08:01 am] apple  : just taking only the best probable set-ups
[08:01 am] taco  : i hear you
[08:02 am] mikewd2 -: you get in habit of over trading on juicy ones, it carries over to not so juicy.
[08:02 am] Ed : another habit could be taking a trade withouth a signal
[08:02 am] jsn13  : watching ALLT
[08:02 am] khall  : exactly mike
[08:02 am] apple  : no signal, no trade
[08:02 am] apple  : also, take breaks and regroup -- joey is a great example of that
[08:03 am] Ed : write apple, but key is making sure it is written down and everyday you have to go over whats holding you back and course of action to make a change,
[08:03 am] Ed : trying to make a trade is a famous bad habit also
[08:03 am] apple  : exactly - REview & Grow... learn from it, don't be critical
[08:04 am] Ed : thats basically making something there that is not
[08:04 am] taco  : right
[08:04 am] apple  : magic?
[08:04 am] khall  : trading what you think instead of what you see
[08:04 am] apple  : right, khall
[08:04 am] scalpman  : Thor was hammered but is rebounding a bit.
[08:05 am] mikewd2 -: out FDO, another +0.5-
[08:05 am] Ed : right, we all know it but what will we do to make the change to reach our goals and be consistent trader, it is here that one gets lazy but its where u focus (this is called discipline)
[08:06 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, ALLT worth  a long try? has a clear stop, r:r seems decent
[08:06 am] Ed : have to mention this one, getting disgusted with markets
[08:07 am] Ed : have lower highs in this trade range, I think better opportunities worth waiting for
[08:08 am] Ed : thats just my .02 cents mike
[08:09 am] skydiver  : my time is up . . see you all tomorrow -- and thnx Ed, that is very helpful and good reminder to us all :)
[08:09 am] shark  : bye sky
[08:09 am] scalpman  : HFC
[08:09 am] mikewd2 -: HLF at new high, since sell off on ackman comments
[08:11 am] Ed : c ya sky
[08:11 am] taco  : bye sky
[08:11 am] apple  : bye sky have fun
[08:12 am] apple  : speaking of breaks - back in a bit
[08:13 am] Ed : hey mike did that make sense
[08:13 am] mikewd2 -: watching WFT
[08:13 am] mikewd2 -: yes, Ed
[08:14 am] Ed : cool, sometimes i can ramble, just wanted to make sure
[08:14 am] taco  : yes thanks ed all good info and spelt corektly to
[08:14 am] Ed : lol
[08:17 am] murano  : GME
[08:17 am] Ed : as Mitch spoke about before u get a settling down of volatility in a stock, any resurgance you will want to see vol and break outside of ranges
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : RIG
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: all oil drilling, services moving up
[08:20 am] joeytsa  : great lesson you gave earlier Ed
[08:20 am] Ed : thx joey
[08:20 am] murano  : No short on GME at Lightspeed
[08:22 am] joeytsa  : tighten RIG if long
[08:22 am] joeytsa  : looks like it wants to move a bit more though
[08:22 am] mikewd2 -: could run to 49.50 - 50.00 area
[08:23 am] shark  : SPY positive on day
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : came back and got me, looking for next entry
[08:25 am] shark  : nice one joey, RIG
[08:25 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: great call joey, missed the top for short
[08:26 am] elisha  : Thanks for lesson Ed
[08:26 am] apple  : back, nice hot cappuccino
[08:27 am] shark  : looks like I'm going to miss grand opening of Starbucks Vietham :(
[08:28 am] taco  : thanks guys for both
[08:28 am] scalpman  : APKT
[08:28 am] apple  : haha, don't like starbucks, prefer little cafes
[08:29 am] apple  : coffee is always better
[08:29 am] shark  : yeah, I agree apple. :)
[08:29 am] shark  : just adds to my tax write off trades
[08:29 am] shark  : "research"
[08:30 am] apple  : haha
[08:30 am] mikewd2 -: DO tested 71.00 - another driller offshore
[08:31 am] apple  : thx mike
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : shark: starbucks coming out with $1 refillable cups
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: shorted DO, with stop 71.03
[08:32 am] shark  : watching MLNX
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: ALLT bouncing
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : good stop point mike, if it can lose 70.80 might get a nice fall
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : mike: HLF was nice off that $33 buy point
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: out ALLT, decent profit
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, wish i had hit it
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : /ES still making higher lows
[08:34 am] taco  : sorry if i messed you up mike when i went short there
[08:35 am] shark  : watching FSLR -strong on cont'd govt benefits
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: no, i tried to go long - just missed entry
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: didn't want to chase
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: I'm still making money got the naked put
[08:36 am] apple  : on what mike?
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: HLF
[08:36 am] joeytsa  : one day closer mike :)
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: sold the jan 18, 30 for 2.10 a few daya ago
[08:37 am] shark  : nice mike!
[08:37 am] apple  : i am still in my 35call jan 19
[08:38 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX looking better on daily
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : you get better delta buying itm calls
[08:39 am] joeytsa  : at least i think you do
[08:39 am] victor51  : Thanks Joey/Murano/Ed on RIG short. I am out now
[08:39 am] shark  : or you can double your delta by buying 2x as many contracts
[08:39 am] apple  : i like that idea shark
[08:39 am] joeytsa  : true
[08:39 am] shark  : ;)
[08:39 am] victor51  : Any news on ALLT. I am L at $14
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : i like the itm calls, delta around 80
[08:40 am] qwert  : watching NFLX
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : you get most of the upside, and if stock drops..so does delta so you dont lose as much
[08:40 am] apple  : thx qwert
[08:40 am] apple  : more expensive tho, joey
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : who cares
[08:41 am] apple  : looks like NFLX made a soup bowl from yesterday
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : im talking for swings though, sorry i wasnt clear
[08:41 am] apple  : ok
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: watching for RIG short if fails hod
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : mike: dbl top on neg div at the moment
[08:43 am] apple  : had a nice pop there, mike
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : /GC with some nice cycles today
[08:45 am] joeytsa  : life improvement book recommendation, can be applied to trading life...
[08:45 am] joeytsa  : "The Compound Effect" by Darren Hardy
[08:45 am] apple  : thx joey
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : very easy read
[08:46 am] apple  : even better, right?
[08:47 am] Mitch K: hey joey, you left too soon for your break.  look at NG after that sell signal you called out
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: since its about a month after Lightning, are you liking stocks or futures better?
[08:47 am] Mitch K: i mean buy signal
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : yeah i saw when i came back
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : almost put in a standing order, but didnt
[08:47 am] Mitch K: am I liking Lightning for futures or stocks better, is that your question?
[08:48 am] joeytsa  : or just in general
[08:48 am] apple  : hotseat
[08:49 am] Mitch K: because the fact that futures is more volatile I think Lightning is more effective with futures but that first hour with volatile stocks is good too
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : i was going to write the same thing
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : i like that futures isnt as hectic, sometimes just way too many stocks to follow
[08:50 am] apple  : volatility helps everything
[08:50 am] apple  : mike did you get RIG short?
[08:50 am] mikewd2 -: yes and DO
[08:51 am] Mitch K: the version 2 we are working on dramatically improved the FuturesForex version.   the stocks version improved as well but the Futures version is just getting outstanding results
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : cant wait, loving what i see now actually
[08:51 am] Mitch K: it comes down to the volatility
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : if you use common trading sense you can avoid some of the "wrong" signals given
[08:52 am] joeytsa  : nice trades mike
[08:52 am] Mitch K: the nice thing is you can have stocks go dead for awhile and find something in the futures market and often times the opposite where futures can be quiet and you can find 1 or 2 stocks to work with.
[08:53 am] apple  : and that's really all you need for a profitable day
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : yeah, and the audio alerts you if you happen to nod off haha
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: Gundlach: 'Deeply believe' Apple headed to $425 per share
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : article i posted yesterday in the room gave a $440 target if neckline was broken
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : http://www.t3live.com/articles/market-analysi s/3733-scott-redlers-predictions-for-2013-.ht ml
[08:54 am] Mitch K: what I am personally finding is that i do better with fewer Lightning charts open, when i have 6 or more charts open at  a time, there are too many audio alerts and I get desensitized from taking all the audio alerts seriously
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : for you mike, not sure you were in the room
[08:54 am] lisas  : Mitch, I keep getting the error message if I link the alert box to a chart.
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : yeah Mitch, happened to me this morning...signals going off left and right
[08:55 am] joeytsa  : i have 5 futures symbols up
[08:55 am] Mitch K: i saw your email lisa but i couldnt follow it, probably because it was late at night
[08:55 am] Mitch K: well today was just so busy anyhow joey
[08:55 am] joeytsa  : yeah, even premarket
[08:56 am] lisas  : I thought I had it figured out, but now it's appearing with a link between alert box and a chart. I'm under the weather, so it could have been my explanation also
[08:56 am] joeytsa  : im just finding it "easier" to scalp the futures
[08:57 am] taco  : i've been getting encouraging results in futures
[08:57 am] scalpman  : Joey...do you trade one future like S&P or emini
[08:57 am] Mitch K: oh ok, the Lightning alert box.  i never tried linking to a chart, does it work?  i would not think that would work because there is a switch between types of charts form stocks to futures
[08:57 am] lisas  : So link between Market analyzer and chart are fine. Linking alert window and a chart I get the error message that I'm using the stock version, and need the futures version, even though I have the futures version
[08:57 am] Mitch K: i think it is because you are mixing types of Lightning versions
[08:57 am] lisas  : I have a futures MA open now, with TSA LightFuture as a column. Alerts appear in the alerts box
[08:58 am] Mitch K: and a Lightning chart can only have a stock or a futures instrument but the alert box is giving alerts for both types
[08:58 am] Mitch K: thats the problem
[08:58 am] lisas  : there is no indicator in the alerts box, and it works fine with stocks.
[08:59 am] lisas  : I closed my MA with stocks, but interestingly, I'm still getting alerts in the alert box for stocks I had in MA
[08:59 am] apple  : HLF on fire today
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: LXK moving
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : lisa: i had that issue a few weeks back, so i closed it
[09:00 am] lisas  : I also have a ghost stock, CREE. Haven't used it in weeks, but still get alerts for it
[09:00 am] joeytsa  : RIG forming asc tri/wedge patttern
[09:00 am] Mitch K: im sure i am right about this.   a Lightning chart can handle only stocks or only futures.  because you are linking to the same chart
[09:00 am] mikewd2 -: is that good for short or long, joey?
[09:01 am] apple  : i see that on the 15 min RIG
[09:01 am] lisas  : I have it linked to a different chart Mitch
[09:01 am] joeytsa  : yes mike haha
[09:01 am] lisas  : May have to do a screen print and email you to show my set up
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: watching LXK if it nears 26.00
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: DO short working nicely
[09:02 am] joeytsa  : i wouldnt long RIG until over 49.25
[09:02 am] mikewd2 -: looking for 70.20 area on DO
[09:03 am] scalpman  : ALF
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : did you lower your stop mike?
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: maybe 70.35
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[09:03 am] taco  : its really changed how i view entries hinking aboutbracket orders
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : /GC sitting on S2 support
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : good mike
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: actually i moved it to 70.8
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : nice, price has to push thru 5,15 ma to get there
[09:04 am] joeytsa  : taco: those strangles work decently on consolidation/ranges
[09:04 am] lisas  : It might be a quirk with Ninja, wonder if all workspaces run, even if not opened
[09:05 am] taco  : right, i've been noticing awesome
[09:05 am] lisas  : i might have to take one of their live webinars to ask
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : not sure lisa, i found the MA aggrevating so i just keep an alerts box up now
[09:06 am] Ed : no one kept an eye on the range for break in BIIB
[09:06 am] taco  : nice ed
[09:07 am] lisas  : Well, I just discovered Cree was on an earlier workspace I saved but didn't use anymore. I've been getting signals on it every day since. Although not all the signals on that workspace have been alerting. Curious. I used the MA fine for stocks this week. Helps keep track of calls very well.
[09:07 am] shark  : NFLX nice run
[09:07 am] Ed : if u missed another good study chart
[09:07 am] qwert  : real nice on BIIB
[09:07 am] Ed : all qwerts fault
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : yeah qwert messed up last week too
[09:07 am] qwert  : yep all my fault
[09:07 am] taco  : funny
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : im going to loosen your skis  haha
[09:08 am] qwert  : yeah that was really fun yesterday
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: watching SODA at 48.00
[09:09 am] apple  : glad to hear qwert
[09:09 am] taco  : NUS up 2%
[09:09 am] joeytsa  : /PL has been ping-ponging between 1574-1575
[09:11 am] apple  : thx E
[09:13 am] mikewd2 -: going for RIG short again, i like it when we have nice clear stops
[09:15 am] shark  : I like that idea, Mitch
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : 90 minute hold time, thats a swing trade to me haha
[09:16 am] apple  : joey, 15 min is a swing trade to you. lol
[09:16 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:16 am] apple  : sounds interesting MK
[09:17 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: would a longer timeframe setting do the same thing?
[09:18 am] joeytsa  : AL Jazeera taking over Current TV
[09:18 am] apple  : gore selling
[09:19 am] joeytsa  : Al Gore could make $125M from the deal
[09:19 am] apple  : good for him, should have done it last year...
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: RIG breaking out
[09:21 am] shark  : different color might be best way to integrate the two together, Mitch
[09:21 am] joeytsa  : sounds good, thats why i keep shorter times/targets on futures
[09:21 am] joeytsa  : trail RIG if you took the asc tri break
[09:21 am] qwert  : Monitoring FTNT
[09:21 am] lisas  : Something I try to do is multiple contracts. Then take one off, move stop up and shoot for a larger target if in line with the overnight and daily trend.
[09:22 am] shark  : watching NFLX, strong
[09:23 am] shark  : WOW! Awesome, Mitch!!!
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : nice Mitch : cool thing is you can do both...
[09:24 am] joeytsa  : have one longer term trade going, but pick off small scalps in between
[09:24 am] joeytsa  : lisa: thats a good strategy also
[09:25 am] shark  : agreed, Mitch
[09:25 am] lisas  : either way, Mitch's point is good. Holder longer can pay off well.
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : agreed
[09:26 am] joeytsa  : out RIG
[09:26 am] apple  : thx E
[09:27 am] apple  : i like the 5 min timeframe, smooths it out
[09:27 am] shark  : nice joey, RIG
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : i never tried that,  what if you have 2 seperate charts up though?
[09:27 am] Ed : nice trading joey
[09:28 am] joeytsa  : thanks, got in earlier than my posted buy point..gut feel trade
[09:28 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa RIG
[09:28 am] shark  : AAPL testing b/e 3rd time
[09:30 am] shark  : 40% move HLF since 12/24, great call Mitch
[09:32 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: the other way around that would be to just take the scalps in the direction of the longer trade?
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : stopped on DO, took that 2nd short, small profit
[09:33 am] apple  : actually, joey, if there is volatility, you will make more money in the long run
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: i've still have it joey, DO
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : nice mike, i got it on the bounce to 70.90
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: me too
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : not sure about that apple
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: watching RIG at 50.00
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : pay less commission yes, but would have more profits
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: covered half DO at 70.60
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : /GC lost S2
[09:38 am] apple  : nice mike
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : good one mike
[09:38 am] lisas  : well, figured out the problem with my errors and the ghost symbols. When you open a new workspace in Ninja, and the previous vanishes, it's not really gone, still working and signaling in the back ground. Useful to know if you don't have much monitor space, but confusing if you are used to TS!
[09:39 am] joeytsa  : thanks lisa, good to know
[09:40 am] lisas  : MA works well that way, although you don't really need it with futures, not that many symbols. MA is very useful to track room calls
[09:40 am] lisas  : in stocks
[09:41 am] joeytsa  : maybe i will give it another try
[09:43 am] mikewd2 -: covered remaining DO S at 70.40
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : good article for those trading or thinking about trading futures..
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : http://www.shadowtraders.com/Articles/Futures %20Trading%20Is%20It%20For%20You.html
[09: 46 am] joeytsa  : actually here are a bunch, but that one above is a good starting point...
[09:47 am] joeytsa  : http://shadowtraderseminifuturestrading.blogs pot.com/p/futures-trading-articles.html
[0 9:47 am] qwert  : monitoring ILMN
[09:47 am] apple  : thx joey
[09:47 am] apple  : thx qwert
[09:47 am] lisas  : Thanks joey
[09:47 am] joeytsa  : i read that first one awhile back, got me more interested in futures
[09:48 am] lisas  : taking off, have a great day all!
[09:48 am] joeytsa  : bye lisa lisa
[09:48 am] taco  : bye lisa
[09:48 am] shark  : bye lisa
[09:48 am] Ed : c y alisa
[09:48 am] qwert  : bye lisa
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : GDI
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : not as good as i thought
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : chart rescaled
[09:52 am] apple  : bye lisa have fun
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : /GC buy cover signal
[09:55 am] mikewd2 -: watching GNC
[09:58 am] apple  : nice increase in volume mike
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: BBBY looks good in 15 day, 15min
[10:01 am] apple  : agree
[10:01 am] shark  : FTC govt' conference on GOOG coming up
[10:05 am] shark  : I vote Joey for speaker of the house
[10:05 am] shark  : you don't need to be a member of congress to win
[10:06 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on GNC
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : not sure they would like me cursing anyone out though
[10:06 am] shark  : might be just what they need
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : :)
[10:08 am] go4it  : you mean like Boner dropped the F bomb on Reid
[10:08 am] joeytsa  : should have dropped a cement block on him :)
[10:08 am] go4it  : :)
[10:08 am] joeytsa  : they both need a good lashing though
[10:09 am] go4it  : I guess that was plan C
[10:10 am] joeytsa  : not taking it but PPO 60c spike down on vol
[10:10 am] mikewd2 -: GNC working this time
[10:10 am] mikewd2 -: should have waited to 31.00 first time
[10:11 am] mikewd2 -: whole numbers seem to attract like a magnet.
[10:11 am] go4it  : Does anybody know what a group of baboons are called?
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : sure do
[10:11 am] apple  : down on the daily
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : troop
[10:11 am] shark  : good point, apple
[10:11 am] go4it  : Congress
[10:11 am] mikewd2 -: watching LXK
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : its actually troop
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : but congress is also used
[10:12 am] go4it  : google it Joey
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_group_of_ baboons_called
[10:12 am] shark  : lol
[10:13 am] joeytsa  : think i saw it on jeopardy also
[10:13 am] apple  : too funny
[10:14 am] apple  : HLF hitting 36
[10:15 am] shark  : NFLX double top
[10:15 am] apple  : looks like it
[10:17 am] joeytsa  : /PL in a tight range
[10:17 am] apple  : been very strong today, needs a little pullback
[10:18 am] taco  : /PL 04-13?
[10:18 am] joeytsa  : catching breath for push to $100??
[10:18 am] joeytsa  : yes taco
[10:18 am] shark  : could be, joey.
[10:18 am] joeytsa  : about 1-1.5 pt range
[10:18 am] shark  : not seeing much pullback or bounces in stocks
[10:18 am] taco  : ya the 03-13 looks funny
[10:18 am] joeytsa  : AAPL dropping
[10:19 am] joeytsa  : yeah, dont like the 3-13 one, Mitch liked it though
[10:19 am] apple  : AAPl fot off the fence, there
[10:19 am] apple  : fot = got
[10:19 am] joeytsa  : /GC just beautiful today
[10:20 am] apple  : nice trades there joey
[10:21 am] joeytsa  : really starting to like futures more than stocks
[10:21 am] apple  : i hear ya
[10:22 am] joeytsa  : esp when you compare $ outlay to make the play
[10:22 am] apple  : well GNC decided to make a move there
[10:22 am] apple  : agree, and i like the options even better
[10:22 am] shark  : :)
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : daytrading options doesnt work for me
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : will use them on any swings i ever end up doing though
[10:23 am] apple  : i had bought an .85 call on XOM on monday, now 3.85
[10:23 am] shark  : you rock, apple!
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : nice trade apple !!!
[10:24 am] taco  : woot woot
[10:24 am] apple  : thx, shark, made some other nice moves with GOOG, MA, BIDU, NFLX, AMZN
[10:24 am] shark  : :)
[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: out half GNC
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : great trade mike, way to stay with your idea
[10:25 am] apple  : nice mike
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : nice apple on those higher priced stocks..really the best way to play them, keep it going
[10:26 am] mikewd2 -: all out GNC
[10:26 am] apple  : thx joey.  i found that is the only way to go with them
[10:27 am] shark  : we need to get joey on board now, apple
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : agreed
[10:27 am] apple  : nice move off bottom with AAPL
[10:27 am] apple  : joey, once you go, there will be no looking back!
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : hard to put up $200K just to make small profit
[10:27 am] shark  : NFLX 3x hod attempt
[10:28 am] apple  : there is some resistance there shark
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : thats why i am liking futures, each pt in /GC is $100/contract
[10:28 am] apple  : joey, you don't need a boatload of contracts with the options
[10:28 am] shark  : who's your broker, joey?
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : for futures or options?
[10:29 am] apple  : options
[10:29 am] shark  : are they different?
[10:29 am] shark  : both
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : yeah
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : options i have OptionsXpress
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : futures using TradeProFutures
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : not trading options at the moment though
[10:29 am] shark  : thx
[10:30 am] apple  : joey, if you want a far less expensive broker - thinkorswim -- you can do both.  infinity futures is good for futures
[10:30 am] joeytsa  : been thinking of switching options though
[10:30 am] shark  : i agree w/apple
[10:31 am] apple  : i got rid of options express as a broker a long time ago... way too expensive ... i think it was $15 roundtrip or something like that
[10:31 am] joeytsa  : might switch to TS or LS options
[10:31 am] shark  : NFLX thru res, some vol
[10:31 am] joeytsa  : yeah, plus i havent traded options in a while
[10:31 am] shark  : cool, a newbie in the room
[10:31 am] apple  : i am doing options now in TX, but will open an account in TOS soon -- they are geared toward options, created by options buys
[10:32 am] apple  : guys
[10:32 am] apple  : nice move mike on GNC
[10:32 am] apple  : TS - can't type today
[10:32 am] joeytsa  : i would only do swings with options, so not overly concerned about commissions
[10:32 am] mikewd2 -: ty apple
[10:33 am] apple  : right, joey, the weeklies hold for a couple of days and then NEXT!
[10:33 am] shark  : really depends on how much your stock moves, joey
[10:33 am] joeytsa  : plus OpX approved me for options on commodities, have to see if thats available elsewhere..if i decide to enter that arena
[10:34 am] joeytsa  : any swings targets would be multi-point
[10:34 am] apple  : TOS has it i believe
[10:34 am] shark  : if I make 50-80% on a naked put, i often close same day.
[10:34 am] joeytsa  : thx apple
[10:34 am] apple  : i don't do naked
[10:34 am] shark  : see too many pullbacks on following day
[10:34 am] shark  : have similar rules on long calls/puts
[10:34 am] joeytsa  : more focused on the in/out trades currently
[10:35 am] joeytsa  : AMZN over $260
[10:35 am] apple  : joey, the AAPL expiration is a daytrade on friday, that shark and mike do as well
[10:35 am] joeytsa  : havent played that yet
[10:36 am] shark  : 90 NFLX put was .55, now only worth .02
[10:36 am] shark  : so you can get big moves on daily opx prices
[10:36 am] apple  : AAPL has been crapple the past several weeks.  but seems to be shaping up now.  except today.... very tight
[10:36 am] joeytsa  : right
[10:36 am] joeytsa  : lunch time, see you all in 30
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: Boehner edged out Joey for Speaker of House
[10:37 am] shark  : AAPL seems to pause, apple, then run every few weeks
[10:37 am] joeytsa  : haha
[10:37 am] shark  : lol mike
[10:37 am] apple  : haha,
[10:37 am] shark  : we tried, joey
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: LVS nice move today
[10:37 am] go4it  : lol
[10:37 am] apple  : also, i think there was a lot of institutional selling in December on AAPL
[10:38 am] apple  : bye joey have fun
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: HLF still moving, wow
[10:38 am] qwert  : monitoring RRC
[10:38 am] apple  : mike, nice bounce on LVS yesterday, today
[10:39 am] apple  : thx qwert
[10:41 am] shark  : NFLX halted
[10:41 am] shark  : any info?
[10:41 am] apple  : really, why
[10:43 am] shark  : just seems to be on my charting software, apple
[10:44 am] shark  : not co. related
[10:44 am] mikewd2 -: wow - NFLX
[10:45 am] qwert  : according to my esignal last trade went off at 10:33am pst
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: NFLX 97.5 puts look interesting
[10:46 am] shark  : all my worden charts are showing no price change
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: not moving on TS either
[10:46 am] taco  : same here qwert
[10:46 am] shark  : must be from the exchange data coming thru
[10:47 am] shark  : dow stocks working fine
[10:47 am] mikewd2 -: dang GNC continued its move up
[10:47 am] shark  : thx, Ed
[10:47 am] shark  : wow, mike
[10:48 am] mikewd2 -: tried to cancel my put order, but they traded on NFLX
[10:50 am] shark  : long or short, mike?
[10:50 am] mikewd2 -: bought ther put
[10:51 am] mikewd2 -: watching GNC as it nears 32.00
[10:52 am] mikewd2 -: SRPT
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: NFLX moving now
[10:56 am] taco  : HLF testing hod
[10:59 am] victor51  : Thanks Ed fir GNC +2% all out
[10:59 am] Ed : think that was mike idea
[11:00 am] victor51  : Thanks Mike for a nice long
[11:00 am] taco  : nice trade victor
[11:01 am] go4it  : Boner being crowned head baboon lol
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: I think Obama still head baboon!
[11:02 am] go4it  : lol
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: Boehner lead money
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: monkey
[11:03 am] go4it  : let's see if he crys
[11:05 am] taco  : channel ordered HLF sim
[11:06 am] taco  : nice
[11:08 am] taco  : i was 100% profitable on 12 trades in sim today
[11:08 am] mikewd2 -: wow - very nice taco
[11:08 am] apple  : congrats taco.  wonderful.  celebrate.
[11:08 am] taco  : wow
[11:09 am] qwert  : nice Taco
[11:09 am] taco  : ave .74% profit
[11:09 am] mikewd2 -: HLF drop
[11:10 am] apple  : everything following SPY, LULU, HLF, AAPL, etc
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : correct Mitch
[11:11 am] joeytsa  : nice trading taco
[11:13 am] taco  : i'm better bcause of you all
[11:13 am] apple  : TS keeps freezing on me yesterday and today
[11:13 am] joeytsa  : apple: did you do the update?
[11:13 am] apple  : no
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : hmmm, a few did it and have had issues
[11:14 am] cowboyh  : buy sig on TNA 1 min
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : good site Mitch
[11:14 am] apple  : only 2 desktops freeze
[11:14 am] apple  : i started out with freestockcharts -- loved it
[11:15 am] apple  : maybe i should call TS
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : i've had desktops freeze up before
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : i just sign off, back on and its fixed
[11:16 am] apple  : ok, thx
[11:17 am] joeytsa  : taco: did you see that /PL range break down
[11:17 am] taco  : i do now, nice
[11:17 am] joeytsa  : about 10pts overall
[11:18 am] apple  : had to do task manager
[11:18 am] taco  : did you straddle it?
[11:18 am] taco  : does that work a lot or is it just when i try it?
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : missed that one..was getting ready to break
[11:18 am] taco  : i guess i have to watch for support and resistance
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : it always works, just not always how you want haha
[11:19 am] taco  : oh no:)
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : as long as your risk is controlled, you cant get too hurt though
[11:20 am] taco  : is a danger a headfake? triggering one and going other way?
[11:20 am] joeytsa  : eye on NEM
[11:20 am] joeytsa  : yes
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : key is to look for a tight range/consolidation..esp on something that has a decent overall range
[11:21 am] taco  : right
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : only other issue i have it that sometimes it moves so fast that it hits my profit target before i can adjust it
[11:22 am] murano  : CHKP
[11:22 am] taco  : that happened on HLF sim trade
[11:23 am] taco  : what is this showing?
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : not much you can really do
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : not touching CHKP, looks a bit manic
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : thanks MItch
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : i got the short term signal just now also
[11:24 am] joeytsa  : kind of a tight range though
[11:24 am] taco  : did someone do a bunch of market orders making those lines?
[11:25 am] joeytsa  : gotya, thanks
[11:27 am] mikewd2 -: CHKP was nice, thanks
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: there she goes, CHKP
[11:30 am] apple  : wow on CHKP
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: watching the 50 day, 45.57
[11:31 am] joeytsa  : thx Mitch
[11:33 am] murano  : FFIV
[11:34 am] go4it  : APKT
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: CLF
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : watching HAIN
[11:39 am] apple  : murano is great
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: RIG coming down
[11:40 am] apple  : at least the sun is shining, cold outside 33
[11:41 am] joeytsa  : WTW jumping
[11:43 am] apple  : wow
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: CHKP still moving up
[11:49 am] mikewd2 -: need RIG to break thru 49.00
[11:49 am] mikewd2 -: maybe that s/b fall thru - haha
[11:52 am] mikewd2 -: die RIG
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : keeps making lower highs/lows mike
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : very nice trading day overall though, plenty of moves
[11:57 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, just needs to break below 49.00
[11:57 am] apple  : lots of great ideas today
[11:58 am] apple  : it's trying mike
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : geitner to step down at end of january?
[12:22 pm] taco  : /ZC fell had big round trip sine early am
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : didnt even have that one up
[12:23 pm] apple  : that's what i heard as well
[12:23 pm] taco  : lisa and Mitch talked yest about it
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : yeah i remember...think i will devote another monitor for more futures charts...
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : organize them by category
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : nice Ed,  /ES lost 1453 pp
[12:24 pm] qwert  : FFIV looking like it may bounce
[12:26 pm] taco  : thanks Mitch, Ed and all. have apt see you tomorrow
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : bye taco
[12:27 pm] apple  : great job today taco.  enjoy your evening
[12:28 pm] Ed : c ya taco
[12:29 pm] apple  : joey, do you trade forex?
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : never traded forex
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : looked into it briefly, just never gave it much thought though
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : maybe put that on my to-do list
[12:30 pm] apple  : another ballgame
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : should trade just like everything else
[12:35 pm] apple  : yes it should
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : just like futures, really not much to learn
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : look for patterns/setups
[12:36 pm] apple  : yes
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : for scalps, if swinging/holding longer term then it makes sense to learn about things
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : ie: on corn, if you plan to hold it then you should at least know when crops are planted/harvested..stuff like that
[12:37 pm] apple  : agree.  right.  scalps are scalps.  long term is different.
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : currencies, maybe learn when govt monetary decisions are made?
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : can become information overload
[12:40 pm] apple  : very true
[12:40 pm] apple  : mike RIG almost made it 49
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : thats why i got away from fa, too much stuff
[12:42 pm] apple  : GOOG really hit the skids today
[12:43 pm] joeytsa  : /GC just gave nice trade..
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : dbl bot on pos div
[12:45 pm] jsn13  : that is really one of the easiet strategy joey...nice one....
[12:46 pm] shark  : EUR/USD pull back to 1.30
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : HAIN nice buy spurt last hour
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : thanks Mitch,Ed, traders...really nice trading day, see if it continues tomorrow
[12:55 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:56 pm] shark  : bye joey
[12:56 pm] apple  : bye joey have fun
[12:58 pm] apple  : nice breakout on HAIN
[01:00 pm] shark  : wow, missed that one

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