Chat Highlights From 01/02/2013

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:31 am] Mitch K: the buy on dip strategy will probably be best
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching TGT for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: most trades should be on the long side
[06:34 am] Mitch K: example of what i am referring to is let stocks pullback before buying long.  the stocks that are dumping for a drop and pop are probably not good candidates.   best to go with strong acting stocks
[06:35 am] Mitch K: monitoring DOLE
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching UPL for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching RGR for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching DISCA for bottom to buy
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching COG for bottom to buy
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching HFC for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching JWN for bottom
[06:39 am] Mitch K: monitoring APC
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching TIF for bottom
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching AGCO for bottom
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching ALJ for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching SINA for bottom to buy,
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching ALJ closer
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching DECK for bottom
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching DECK closer
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for bottom
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching LNKD for bottom
[06:47 am] Mitch K: monitoring GOOG
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching DOLE closer
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching ANF for bottom
[06:48 am] Mitch K: stocks coming off their highs and many stocks are going to present a good tradable bottom to buy long.  im expecting the bounces to be stronger than normal because of bullish sentiment
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching VMED for bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching SGYP for bottom, lower priced, dont get heavy in this
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching MR for bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: looking for many stocks to look like the FIRE chart, missed bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching DG for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching PANW for bottom
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching ELLI possible top soon
[06:52 am] Ed : SPY at hod
[06:53 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching WPI for bottom
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching MR closer
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching for many of the bounces to top out
[06:56 am] Mitch K: start watching for exit points on the longs, like LNKD
[06:57 am] Mitch K: consider selling PANW long soon
[06:58 am] Mitch K: still monitoring DECK, not in hurry
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider reducing/selling TGT soon
[06:59 am] Mitch K: should be out of the long scalp of RGR
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watching WPI closer, still watching for bottom
[07:05 am] Ed : monitoring JBHT
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for bottom
[07:08 am] Mitch K: watching CL, Crude Oil for bottom soon
[07:08 am] Mitch K: WPI bottoming
[07:08 am] Mitch K: DECk getting more interesting for next bottom
[07:09 am] Mitch K: consider reducing MR if long
[07:10 am] Mitch K: watching LULU for bottom
[07:10 am] Mitch K: monitoring CLH
[07:11 am] Mitch K: watching EQT closer
[07:12 am] Mitch K: watching CL to reduce long
[07:12 am] Mitch K: the indexes havent sold off so overall market is still strong.  these drops from highs should bounce well on next bottom
[07:13 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR for bottom
[07:13 am] Mitch K: when i post CL, that means Crude Oil unless I specifically say Colgate
[07:14 am] Mitch K: watching COG for bottom, 2nd bottom, first bounce was very weak
[07:18 am] Mitch K: also watching QCOR closer too
[07:18 am] Mitch K: watching HFC closely
[07:18 am] Mitch K: consider selling TIF if long
[07:19 am] Mitch K: consider selling more CL if long
[07:21 am] Mitch K: consider covering TIF if short
[07:21 am] Mitch K: good eye on VMW joey and EMC mike.  both should bounce
[07:23 am] Mitch K: remember that this fiscal cliff deal lasts only for 60 days, then back in same boat.  this is a good thing because we get high volatility again, which is what we like as traders
[07:24 am] Mitch K: i think the boat will be leaky and more damaged if we are going in same boat, possibly motor won't work and missing paddles
[07:25 am] Mitch K: also guy in charge of life boat pointing gun at passengers
[07:27 am] Mitch K: CL toppy
[07:28 am] Mitch K: HFC trying too but like QCOR
[07:28 am] Mitch K: QCOR bottoming here
[07:29 am] Mitch K: watching to see if EMC breaks below $25 first, typical to see bounce off number like $25, still watching
[07:30 am] Mitch K: EMC bouncy
[07:31 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for 2nd short opportunity, not yet, would like over $58 first
[07:32 am] Mitch K: sell signal on CL
[07:33 am] Mitch K: QCOR lower low
[07:33 am] Mitch K: LULU bouncing
[07:33 am] Mitch K: joey, the JWN spike looks like what TIF did 15 min ago, probably decent micro short, emphasis on micro
[07:34 am] Mitch K: still keep watching QCOR though, still good
[07:35 am] Mitch K: same pattern with VMW, had lower low but eventually will give good solid bottoms.  you have to be nimble when trying to find reversal on bottom
[07:40 am] Ed : SPY pulling back
[07:45 am] Mitch K: DECK bounce failed, still worth watching for good bounce though
[07:49 am] Mitch K: COG trying to bototm
[07:50 am] Mitch K: just observing, too late for any trade
[07:50 am] Mitch K: JWN exact repeat of TIF
[07:51 am] Mitch K: consider covering any CL short you might have
[08:05 am] Mitch K: CL downtrending
[08:05 am] Mitch K: these retailers dumping, watching JWN again for bottom
[08:05 am] Mitch K: watching TGT drop
[08:06 am] Mitch K: looking for small bounce in CL which probably should be used to open a short at that top of small bounce, at least worth practicing in simulator
[08:07 am] Mitch K: getting another sell signal in CL, no bounce
[08:08 am] Mitch K: CL worth watching here, pretty big drop happening
[08:09 am] Mitch K: going to get a tradable bounce in CL
[08:09 am] Mitch K: yet mild drop on SPY
[08:11 am] Mitch K: good one taco
[08:29 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[08:36 am] Mitch K: watching LPX for bottom
[08:40 am] Mitch K: within 2-3 candles
[08:40 am] Mitch K: should get a small quick bounce in CL taco
[08:44 am] Ed : nice trend down in SPY
[08:57 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[09:07 am] Mitch K: can I ask you guys a few quick questions on a poll right now?
[09:13 am] Mitch K: thanks
[09:17 am] Mitch K: we have an older list now, i have not updated
[09:17 am] Mitch K: hey taco, is this list jason is talking about for Ninja?  I could upload it to the documents folder here in the Trading Room
[09:35 am] Mitch K: yes i do Lisa, let me look for it, i might have to update it a little bit
[09:36 am] Mitch K: awh shoot, i missed that bottom
[09:36 am] Mitch K: was only looking for 7-10 ticks
[09:36 am] Mitch K: little busy right now with CL, looking for a bounce
[09:37 am] Mitch K: still working this downtrend in CL on the short side, shorting tops and not going long until the last two cycles
[09:38 am] Mitch K: did you guys see CL trade on Monday?  thats about as good of trading as it gets.  Lightning thrives on days like that, worth your time to review CL 02-13 Crude oil chart on Monday, look at that cycling both directions up and down
[09:40 am] Mitch K: i have not traded corn, how many ticks is that from $700.00 to $688.75, about 50 ticks on this downtrend in last 70 minutes?
[09:41 am] Mitch K: so thats about $600 profit on a short per contract then?
[09:43 am] Mitch K: ok, i will start watching it
[09:43 am] Mitch K: thats 1030am eastern time?
[09:47 am] Mitch K: the testing of Lightning version 2 is going very well, thrilled actually
[09:49 am] Mitch K: it helps stocks but ginormous benefit for futures and forex.
[09:53 am] Mitch K: yes khall, that is why i asked in a poll what everyone's habits are at the moment.  i am overwhelmed with joy about results.  i was so caught up with the testing on Monday after market that I forgot it was our 24th anniversary Monday night.
[09:54 am] Mitch K: trend change with CL when you see this 2nd bounce higher than first
[09:55 am] Mitch K: CL toppy now
[09:59 am] Ed : getting breaklut in WHR
[10:30 am] Ed : how you all do on HLF swing trade
[11:00 am] Ed : nice one on ELLI murano
[11:21 am] Ed : SPY bouncing after trading near lows for most of afternoon
[11:46 am] Ed : SPY been trading in very tight range last few hours
[11:57 am] Ed : thats on QCOR
[11:57 am] Ed : Hearing recent weakness attributed to circulation of medical bulletin requiring additional approvals before use of Acthar
[11:59 am] Ed : thx joey, nice call
[12:00 pm] Ed : gewtting bounce in SPY
[12:03 pm] Mitch K: good one on QCOR joey
[12:19 pm] Mitch K: what is spike for on SPY?
[12:55 pm] Ed : spy new hod
[01:01 pm] Ed : have a nice evening traders.
[01:11 pm] Mitch K: later guys, happy new year

[06:14 am] shark  : gm all
[06:14 am] khall  : good morning!
[06:14 am] shark  : if you have some AAPL calls swing, should be sitting happy
[06:14 am] lisas  : gm all, welcome back khall
[06:14 am] shark  : up $17 -AAPL pre
[06:15 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:17 am] qwert  : Good morning to everybody
[06:17 am] scalpman  : gm all
[06:17 am] khall  : thanks lisa!
[06:18 am] cowboyh  : gm everyone
[06:18 am] taco  : gm all
[06:21 am] reshef  : G.morning
[06:22 am] victor51  : gm all
[06:23 am] elisha  : Good Morning Ed and everyone
[06:25 am] apple  : good morning to all refreshed traders
[06:25 am] apple  : gm elisha
[06:25 am] apple  : gm victor
[06:25 am] apple  : gm reshef
[06:25 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:25 am] apple  : gm cowboy
[06:25 am] taco  : hi apple
[06:25 am] apple  : gm khall - we missed you
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, everyone
[06:25 am] apple  : gm scalp
[06:25 am] elisha  : gm refreshing apple
[06:25 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : only watching the gap ups today...
[06:25 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:25 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:25 am] apple  : gm shark
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : AAPL,AMZN,BICU,SINA,QCOM
[06:25 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:26 am] apple  : thx joey
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : BIDU not BICU
[06:26 am] shark  : thx joey
[06:26 am] skydiver  : thanx joey and good morning apple
[06:27 am] elisha  : thx joey
[06:27 am] qwert  : thx joey for the gaps
[06:27 am] apple  : nice gap in ES
[06:27 am] qwert  : gm apple
[06:27 am] apple  : i hope everybody had a fun new year's
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : yeah aaple, some really nice futures trades goign on
[06:28 am] qwert  : yeah NG really good
[06:28 am] joeytsa  : AAPL going nuts
[06:28 am] apple  : i hope this little trend continues
[06:28 am] apple  : it looks like AAPL is back to normal
[06:28 am] joeytsa  : yeah qwert
[06:28 am] shark  : :)
[06:29 am] reshef  : Some of you have connection problems?
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL on fire
[06:29 am] apple  : no
[06:29 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:29 am] apple  : khall - how was your vacation?
[06:29 am] taco  : so far its ok reshef
[06:29 am] shark  : AAPL up $21.61 now
[06:29 am] reshef  : apple, do you see the charts
[06:30 am] skydiver  : reshef - I'm having no problems with connections and see charts etc.
[06:30 am] khall  : gm apple - it was great! even with the rain
[06:30 am] apple  : yes
[06:30 am] reshef  : Thanks
[06:30 am] apple  : glad to hear you had some fun
[06:30 am] mikewd2 -: most oil services up big
[06:31 am] shark  : watching DDD
[06:31 am] skydiver  : me too shark :)
[06:31 am] shark  : :)
[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: SSYS
[06:32 am] elisha  : reshef - I had to log out and then in the room again
[06:32 am] apple  : gm E
[06:32 am] apple  : gm MK
[06:32 am] shark  : watching CMG
[06:32 am] shark  : got over 300, rd #
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : LVS
[06:33 am] shark  : all out AAPL calls
[06:33 am] joeytsa  : $$$
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: wow - nice shark
[06:33 am] shark  : watching HLF
[06:34 am] apple  : i am still in my AAPL 560 calls shark - up $3
[06:34 am] shark  : ;)
[06:34 am] shark  : are mitch or ed writing? not showing anything up above
[06:34 am] apple  : MK is writing
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: CTRP
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : eye on MET
[06:35 am] apple  : and my HLF 35 call is up $1.40
[06:35 am] khall  : YAY!
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: down up 232 - happy new year
[06:36 am] mikewd2 -: down - dow
[06:36 am] apple  : nice moves!
[06:36 am] shark  : thx apple, I refreshed. that did it
[06:40 am] mikewd2 -: watching FCX
[06:41 am] shark  : DOLE
[06:41 am] joeytsa  : nice little pullback on some of the gappers
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : /ES testing R2 support
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : eye on KORS
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : both AMZN,AAPL at lod
[06:47 am] shark  : KORS 50 day 52.35
[06:48 am] skydiver  : thnx shark
[06:48 am] apple  : GOOG had a nice reversal after gap up, AMZN and AAPL as well
[06:48 am] mikewd2 -: HLF falling
[06:50 am] joeytsa  : SGYP moving on clinical trial, constipation drug
[06:51 am] qwert  : watching EQT
[06:51 am] shark  : DIA new hod
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : /ES testing hod area
[06:54 am] shark  : DOLE new lod
[06:54 am] shark  : vol pick up
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : watching the 1451-1453 range on /ES
[06:57 am] lisas  : anyone else having problems with TS being slow today?
[06:57 am] Ed : no here
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : not noticing anything lisa
[06:58 am] lisas  : I've been on hold 10 min, says higher wait times than normal, rebooted, restarted, etc several times
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : /GC at hod
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : coming into R2 res area
[06:58 am] apple  : all good here lisa
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : lisa: i still havent updated though, maybe thats the prob if you did??
[06:59 am] lisas  : well lucky me! glad you are all ok
[06:59 am] lisas  : could be joey
[06:59 am] lisas  : forgot how to roll back, may look at that while on hold
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : someone else had issues the other day i think
[07:01 am] skydiver  : Dole being bought out by a Chineses company - ITOCHU corp.  - waiting for chinese regulatory approval
[07:02 am] Ed : thx sky
[07:02 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:02 am] apple  : thx sky good to know
[07:02 am] shark  : and so they went down? Hmmm
[07:03 am] shark  : chinese $$ no goog?
[07:03 am] skydiver  : yes - interesting shark
[07:03 am] shark  : goog = good
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : tight ranges on /NG,GC,ES at the moment
[07:04 am] shark  : AAPL new lod
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : nice call on MR Mitch
[07:04 am] shark  : you out AAPL, apple?
[07:04 am] scalpman  : se;; 1/2 MR L
[07:05 am] shark  : NFLX new lod
[07:06 am] shark  : I'm seeing a lot of new lod's
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : same here shark, all on lower highs
[07:09 am] shark  : LULU @ b/e
[07:11 am] shark  : ELLI new hod
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : /CL in a bit of range
[07:14 am] scalpman  : sell 1/4 MR L
[07:14 am] mikewd2 -: DECK trying to bounce off 39.00
[07:15 am] shark  : watching LULU
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : here is a decent article when you have time to read it..
[07:16 am] scalpman  : DEck still 'below water'
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : http://www.t3live.com/articles/market-analysi s/3733-scott-redlers-predictions-for-2013-.ht ml
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: ELLI getting toppy
[07:17 am] scalpman  : All out MR...
[07:17 am] skydiver  : stopped out of DECK long - will watch it again for another try
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : watching VMW
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : that was a nice move on TIF last few minutes
[07:19 am] lisas  : ok, looks like they fixed it. Cache folder got corrupted. Told it's a good idea to empty it occasionally
[07:19 am] shark  : nice lisa :)
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : good to know lisa...now i just have to learn how to do that :)
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: watching EMC
[07:20 am] apple  : right joey
[07:21 am] lisas  : remind me, I'll post on FB
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : will do
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: watching WYN 55.50
[07:22 am] apple  : thx lisa
[07:23 am] skydiver  : thnx Mitch
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : thanks Mitch, that deal will do absolutely nothing to the problem
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : with a huge iceberg right in front of the path
[07:24 am] taco  : nice image lol
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : i can think of about 550 people who need to be on that boat when it sinks :)
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : haha
[07:26 am] khall  : not enough chewing gum in the world to plug the hole in the boat
[07:27 am] shark  : ;)
[07:27 am] skydiver  : hard to patch a hole that has elephants falling thru it
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : and donkeys :)
[07:27 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : nice bounce on DDD..good call
[07:28 am] apple  : first few months of the year are always the best anyway -- get it while the going is good
[07:29 am] joeytsa  : DECK still dancing on $39
[07:30 am] khall  : exactly apple
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : JWN getting a bit of vol
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : thx Mitch
[07:33 am] shark  : LULU
[07:35 am] apple  : just noticed MA made a gigantic gap this morning from 492 to a high of 508
[07:37 am] mikewd2 -: EMC breaking 25.00
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : tighten VMW if short
[07:42 am] taco  : l EMC 24.76
[07:42 am] joeytsa  : /ES trying to hold R2
[07:43 am] mikewd2 -: Oppenheimer now expects data-storage firm EMC to report 4Q revenue below the low end of its already-cautious forecast
[07:44 am] joeytsa  : break time, see you in 20
[07:44 am] joeytsa  : eye on GMCR though
[07:44 am] shark  : ok joey
[07:44 am] apple  : have fun joey
[07:45 am] mikewd2 -: EMC, VMW buoncing
[07:46 am] qwert  : Bye everybody gonna take off early today and take the kids Skiing cya in the am
[07:46 am] mikewd2 -: i'm long EMC 24.75
[07:46 am] taco  : have fun qwert
[07:46 am] Mitch K: later qwert, dont break any legs
[07:46 am] shark  : bye qwert :)
[07:46 am] Ed : c ya qwert
[07:46 am] apple  : have a fun and safe trip
[07:46 am] qwert  : yeah its been like 5 years for me so prayers are needed  lol
[07:47 am] shark  : hahaha
[07:47 am] shark  : NFLX @ b/e
[07:47 am] apple  : filled that gap shark
[07:47 am] shark  : yeah
[07:47 am] go4it  : me 2 Mike 24.80
[07:48 am] shark  : you still in AAPL call?
[07:48 am] apple  : no
[07:48 am] shark  : nice $$, kaching, apple
[07:48 am] Mitch K: skiing accidents can be very serious, sonny bono, Kennedy and Natash RIchardson
[07:49 am] shark  : good point, Mitch
[07:49 am] apple  : i get all my skiing done during the winter olympics...
[07:49 am] shark  : via your HDTV, apple?
[07:50 am] apple  : exactly
[07:50 am] apple  : lol
[07:50 am] shark  : lol
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: watching WPI for double bottom
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: out half EMC 24.97
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: not going too get too greedy on this one
[07:55 am] taco  : QCOR new lod
[07:56 am] go4it  : set stop at b/e Mike
[07:56 am] mikewd2 -: yep, done
[07:56 am] mikewd2 -: also will add to position on retest of lod
[07:57 am] mikewd2 -: missed entry on WPI
[07:57 am] scalpman  : Had DECK but stopped b.e. these bounces don't have much today.
[07:58 am] shark  : sell on the news/open day
[07:59 am] skydiver  : well . . first time I miss handled stocks for awhile . . I'm in the red $3.80 - so at least kept my losses small -- see you all tomorrow :)
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: QCOR L 26.55
[07:59 am] taco  : c ya sky
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: stop .47
[08:00 am] shark  : bye sky
[08:00 am] skydiver  : :)
[08:00 am] mikewd2 -: dang only got 80 of 1k shares
[08:00 am] shark  : LULU new lod
[08:00 am] Ed : c ya sky and it happens to best
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: dang WPI moving
[08:01 am] shark  : yeah, finally
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: not much vol in this WPI move
[08:10 am] mikewd2 -: SPY at lod
[08:10 am] taco  : l/CL sim 92.76
[08:11 am] taco  : sim is forgiving but thanks Mitch:)
[08:12 am] joeytsa  : taco: what timeframe are you using on /CL ?
[08:12 am] taco  : 1min
[08:12 am] joeytsa  : gotya
[08:12 am] taco  : is there a better view?
[08:13 am] joeytsa  : /CL has R2 res at 93.03
[08:13 am] joeytsa  : good question haha,  im using 4R
[08:13 am] Mitch K: took the thoughts right out of my mind on CL joey, you looking at my screens or something?
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : im italian..i have eyes everywhere haha
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : actually i think you had mentioned 4R a while back..and i kept it
[08:14 am] Mitch K: I'm Chinese and I can barely see anymore, lol
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : haha
[08:15 am] joeytsa  : /PL lower lows past hour
[08:15 am] apple  : u guys too funny
[08:15 am] shark  : AAPL, LULU new lod
[08:15 am] shark  : CMG too
[08:17 am] joeytsa  : taco: are you looking for a set amount of ticks for a target, or just going signal to signal?
[08:18 am] taco  : not sure  haha
[08:18 am] taco  : whats a good idea?
[08:18 am] shark  : LULU broke S1
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : /GC another one making lower highs
[08:19 am] joeytsa  : i guess it depends on your style?
[08:19 am] taco  : never had lightning with 4r setting either so not sure to follow signals for that
[08:21 am] taco  : im still getting used to how much margin and profit is associated with ea instrumnt
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : /CL just made a higher low lightning buy signal, but just under resistance
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : just got sell now haha
[08:22 am] joeytsa  : im watching that R2 level for a long, loss of 92.80 for short, then 92.60
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : TIF getting a pop
[08:23 am] shark  : nice observe, joey
[08:23 am] khall  : its' been a nice morning - going to take a break and walk the dogs
[08:24 am] shark  : c ya khall
[08:24 am] joeytsa  : bye khall
[08:24 am] taco  : enjoy
[08:24 am] elisha  : bye khall
[08:26 am] shark  : joey, how was "les mis"?
[08:27 am] scalpman  : QCOR
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : the movie itself was good..cinematography,acting
[08:27 am] scalpman  : gap up
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : didnt really care for a lot of the singing
[08:27 am] scalpman  : SPY bouncing
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : some decent performances, some painful haha
[08:28 am] shark  : nice, ok :)
[08:28 am] joeytsa  : if you have a musical background..turn it off before you go :)
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : and it was really long, but a good story
[08:30 am] taco  : sold 2/3 /CL
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : nice taco, /PL made a nice move also
[08:33 am] scalpman  : well, that's the 4th failed bounce, but I was at b.e.
[08:33 am] scalpman  : QCOR
[08:39 am] taco  : closed CL sim
[08:39 am] taco  : no signal tho on 2 min
[08:39 am] taco  : are 4r signals better for futures?
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : no clue really
[08:40 am] taco  : fun trade anyways
[08:41 am] apple  : AAPL hitting the skid
[08:42 am] reshef  : FB
[08:44 am] shark  : shorts got a hold of it, apple
[08:49 am] victor51  : Ed, OPEN up 6%. You were looking on monday. Did you get in Long?
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : yep. AAPL back to normal :)
[08:54 am] apple  : it is much more fun that way!
[08:54 am] taco  : anyone with IB/Ninja, i went thru nasdaq ipo's for 2012, 2011 and updated my stock list. if you want it let me know
[08:55 am] apple  : victor, as soon as you mentioned OPEN - it dropped!
[08:55 am] taco  : has nyse too
[08:55 am] Ed : did not get to play it vic
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : /PL on a 13pt down move
[09:00 am] shark  : AAPL rallied almost up to 50day ($559)
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : shark: when you get some time , read the article i linked earlier
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : sure
[09:07 am] elisha  : sure
[09:14 am] shark  : ok, joey
[09:14 am] scalpman  : Bye all..only 2 for 5, small stops for b.e. day.
[09:14 am] scalpman  : See you tomorrow.
[09:14 am] joeytsa  : bye scalp
[09:14 am] scalpman  : Bye joey.
[09:15 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:15 am] Mitch K: later scalpman, get more rest, study too
[09:16 am] jsn13  : *Taco
[09:17 am] taco  : sure, it's just the ipos to add to an existing list. fyi is that an underscore after your name?
[09:17 am] reshef  : CLR
[09:18 am] taco  : yes Mitch, it's ipo's for 2011 2012. i did NYSE and NASDAQ not ASE or OTCCB
[09:22 am] taco  : sent it, think i got your email right jsn
[09:22 am] taco  : to you too Mitch
[09:25 am] jsn13  : yup it is....sorry was away just now...
[09:25 am] jsn13  : thanks alot taco....
[09:25 am] taco  : no prob, tired of missing nice setups sometimes:)
[09:30 am] joeytsa  : see you all for the last hour or so
[09:31 am] apple  : bye joey have fun
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : will try apple :)  gotta get my csa crate
[09:32 am] lisas  : bye joey
[09:34 am] lisas  : Mitch, do you have a list of your favorite settings for futures? ie tick/renko etc
[09:36 am] lisas  : that's fine. when you get a chance, want to focus on futures for a couple weeks
[09:37 am] lisas  : corn has had a nice downtrend as well
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: thanks for CLR, got 60 cents on the short
[09:40 am] lisas  : $50 per cent, 12.50 per tick
[09:42 am] lisas  : used to not open until 10:30 est, but ICE added it, so now trading earlier, but volume comes in at 10:30, trend from there is often pretty good
[09:43 am] lisas  : yes Mitch
[09:43 am] lisas  : so I often look to see if it will breakout of first 10 min opening range
[09:44 am] lisas  : soy has bigger moves, but of course you need wider stops then. It also is not as liquid
[09:45 am] lisas  : Mitch, what is the best email to contact you?
[09:46 am] Mitch K: service@tradestocksamerica.com with my name in subject line
[09:46 am] lisas  : ok, thanks
[09:49 am] khall  : Are the improvements in version 2 mostly beneficial to futures?
[09:49 am] khall  : LOL  read my mind there
[09:51 am] Ed : From what I understand khall yes and yes
[09:53 am] khall  : OOPS!
[09:54 am] taco  : uh oh
[09:58 am] apple  : nice move off bottom in AAPL
[10:00 am] go4it  : Mitch is that 24th anniversray for the trading room?
[10:00 am] go4it  : whr
[10:00 am] apple  : lol go
[10:02 am] Ed : breaklut= little break out
[10:03 am] apple  : lol
[10:03 am] taco  : making notes
[10:03 am] Ed : this way dont have to correct my typo
[10:11 am] go4it  : whr=wkb
[10:12 am] go4it  : that's wrong keyboard
[10:13 am] Ed : i tried to buy 10000 shares of WKB bruce
[10:13 am] go4it  : glad you didn't Ed
[10:13 am] Ed : hmm, probably would have made a coool mil
[10:14 am] go4it  : no such symbol lol
[10:14 am] Ed : lol
[10:19 am] taco  : jobs #'s friday i think. going to watch that /ES play joey mentioned
[10:19 am] eyes  : Hello Everyone how was your new years
[10:19 am] taco  : very tame eyes, yours?
[10:20 am] victor51  : Hey Eyes,
[10:20 am] khall  : we actually managed to stay up till midnight this year ;-)
[10:20 am] eyes  : it was nice went to denver just got back last night
[10:20 am] lisas  : Hi eyes!
[10:20 am] eyes  : Hi Lisa
[10:20 am] victor51  : Nice to hear from you Eyes. Are you ready for exciting 2013
[10:21 am] elisha  : hello eyes
[10:21 am] eyes  : yup i am ready to start a new year bright and early tomorrow
[10:21 am] eyes  : just saying hi for now
[10:23 am] apple  : hey eyes, glad to see you are back
[10:24 am] eyes  : thanks Apple
[10:24 am] apple  : we missed you!
[10:28 am] eyes  : i missed you all as well see you all tomorrow
[10:28 am] apple  : have fun
[10:31 am] taco  : really good
[10:31 am] taco  : i'm better at swings than day trades for now
[10:32 am] Ed : nice going taco
[10:37 am] taco  : i've learnt signals from daytrading tho n thx Ed
[10:39 am] regatta  : HLF swing been berry berry good
[10:41 am] go4it  : is HLF swing trade over Ed?
[10:41 am] apple  : good for you regatta.  i am still in my call option
[10:41 am] Ed : Im completely out of it
[10:41 am] go4it  : ok thanx
[10:42 am] Ed : Key will be how it closes, if closes at low will signal trend change for now
[10:43 am] Ed : it is also natural for pullback after nice move off lows on daily
[10:43 am] go4it  : Fly says Ackerman is still affecting price
[10:44 am] elisha  : Ed. is the breaking down under the 50ma now on HLF very significant?
[10:44 am] Ed : had 30% move off bottom
[10:44 am] regatta  : ed, any thoughts on NUS swing
[10:45 am] Ed : long/short regatta
[10:45 am] regatta  : went long from 33.47 some time in last wk
[10:46 am] Ed : it has to contend with lot more b4 that 50ma elisha
[10:46 am] Ed : now if it traded or trades up to it, one would want to see how it reacts
[10:47 am] Ed : risk increased with taking long up here on NUS regatta
[10:47 am] elisha  : thanks Ed
[10:48 am] Ed : but if u got it at 33.47 nice going, did u bank some of that profit
[10:48 am] regatta  : was considering it today as it looks like it may turn over
[10:49 am] Ed : one thing for sure, if u take profit, markets cant take it away from you
[10:49 am] regatta  : agree
[10:50 am] Ed : ur sitting on 10% right now
[10:50 am] regatta  : yep
[10:52 am] murano  : ELLI
[10:55 am] apple  : hey murano, how are you
[10:56 am] murano  : I am doing well
[10:56 am] apple  : glad to hear
[11:06 am] apple  : watching LULU
[11:10 am] victor51  : Hi Murano. ELLI trying to cross 50 mvaand Monday high.
[11:18 am] taco  : /CL moving up
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : URBN vol spike
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : not much of a price jump though
[11:22 am] Ed : yep we got fooled by scaling
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : about 50c it looks like
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : not touching it though
[11:22 am] Ed : i was thinking it was 2
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : i hate that charts re-scale
[11:24 am] joeytsa  : /GC has been decent today
[11:27 am] joeytsa  : lisa: are you trading the /ZC for corn?
[11:28 am] lisas  : yes, it is zc
[11:28 am] joeytsa  : gotya, that is the emini right, should also be a fullsize?
[11:28 am] lisas  : that is full size
[11:29 am] lisas  : I don't know what mini is, in TS it's YC
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : oh ok..i've been thinking about getting into options of commodities..just seem to run out of time to put focus into it
[11:29 am] lisas  : volume very thin in mini
[11:30 am] lisas  : corn isn't as volatile as crude, and usually has standard day trading margin
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : i never check vol on futures, should probably add it or at least check the daily
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : i have $500 margin for ZC
[11:31 am] lisas  : yep, that sounds right
[11:31 am] joeytsa  : /YC is the mini corn
[11:31 am] lisas  : pay attention to the limit in ags
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : right, dont want to get cuaght wrong side of lock-limit
[11:33 am] joeytsa  : thats why if i do some commodity stuff if will be with options, not talking about the day scalps
[11:34 am] taco  : i bracket ordered /Cl and it worked:)
[11:34 am] joeytsa  : nice going
[11:34 am] lisas  : As long as you know what they are, day trades are good. They widened limit on corn to 45 cents, only hit a couple times this year.
[11:34 am] lisas  : on day of crop report
[11:34 am] joeytsa  : especially if you had a small profit target
[11:34 am] joeytsa  : thanks lisa
[11:35 am] joeytsa  : pulled out my trustly old larry williams book the other day, so it got me thinking :)
[11:36 am] lisas  : which book? Ags have some seasonal trades
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : Batting .800, which came with videos, it was basically an updated version of his "how I made $1M" book from early 70's
[11:37 am] reshef  : SKX
[11:38 am] lisas  : Haven't read that, just have seen some of his presentations. He's on my "to read" list
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : another old one i just re-read was called " how to build a fortune in commodities" by r.c. allen
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : the allen book goes a bit more indepth on commodities themselves, not sure if al the info still applies
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : williams books mainly focus on COT report, Open interest, and spreads
[11:40 am] lisas  : We should start a reading list in the documents folder, maybe sort by catagories.
[11:41 am] lisas  : So much to learn about trading, can keep you too busy sometimes.
[11:41 am] joeytsa  : sounds good to me
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : most books seem to lean towards investing more than daytrades/scalps
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : some books listed in the facebook group
[11:43 am] lisas  : true, but there are a few good ones, more bad ones. Some people are not on FB though...:)
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : true
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : /GC into some res, just watching to see if it breaks above or heads back down like it has been
[11:46 am] apple  : so has AAPL
[11:47 am] apple  : nice run on /CL today
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : /NG also decent run
[11:52 am] lisas  : taking off, have a great day all
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : enjoy lisa lisa
[11:53 am] taco  : c ya lisa
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : taco: added you to the fb group
[11:53 am] Ed : c ya lisa
[11:53 am] apple  : bye lisa, have fun
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : QCOR vol spiek down
[11:55 am] elisha  : bye lisas
[11:55 am] bebaravich  : I'm interested to view some of the books listed.  Can I have the name of the FB group?
[11:56 am] apple  : have to pick up robert, back in a bit
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : bebaravich : what is your fb name so i can find you/add etc
[11:57 am] bebaravich  : Trisha Beechler
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : from michigan?
[11:57 am] bebaravich  : yes
[11:57 am] khall  : bye lisa
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : just sent you friend request
[11:58 am] khall  : I think I'm out for the day as well - thanks everyone!
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : bye khall, enjoy the day
[11:58 am] bebaravich  : thanks
[11:59 am] taco  : thanks Ed, which news feed do you use?
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : added you
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : just for you Ed  :)
[12:00 pm] Ed : global equity news
[12:00 pm] elisha  : bye khall
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : when SPY,/ES bounce..usually the /YM,/TF do also
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : had to throw Ed a bone for the new year :)
[12:08 pm] taco  : i put global equity news in goole and don't see a news feed. is that its name Ed?
[12:10 pm] Ed : thats what i see on my feed
[12:11 pm] taco  : is there a link to the website?
[12:13 pm] Ed : bloomberg
[12:13 pm] taco  : thx
[12:13 pm] Ed : the one for traders
[12:13 pm] Ed : may be tad steep, so others to try equityfeed.com
[12:14 pm] Ed : not sure but for some $350 per month may be steep
[12:15 pm] Ed : i had to upgrade cuz i just did not like flyonthewall
[12:15 pm] taco  : that's what i have currently
[12:16 pm] Ed : dont get me wrong it great news source, but it was time for me to move on
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : not sure how accurate/timely the news feed is at madscan, but they offer  news from a variety of sources
[12:17 pm] Ed : yea thing is taco, u may try a few before u get one u like, without having to spend hundreds
[12:17 pm] taco  : no doubt
[12:18 pm] Ed : like on trial, most offer trials for 2 weeks, and surely it should pay for itself within that time
[12:18 pm] Ed : the other is if u dont grow to it, not handling the news given can be hurtful also
[12:19 pm] Ed : like if I used this feed say 3 years ago, I would have lost money sooner
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : its helps if you get the news before the move
[12:20 pm] Ed : but if u dont have discipline it does u know good
[12:20 pm] Ed : alot of talk on debt ceiling and the US credit rating
[12:20 pm] elisha  : Ed, if you trade price action and volume how important is a newsfeed?
[12:21 pm] Ed : like joey said helps u get wide spread news before the mass move
[12:22 pm] elisha  : ok
[12:22 pm] elisha  : thanks
[12:22 pm] Ed : but good think about good scanner is it will pick it up also
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : i have a scan on madscan that picks up price spikes on news, but i dont get the news itself since i never signed up for it..but its there if you want it
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : i believe it tells the news source, type of news and time news hit, but dont fully remember
[12:24 pm] Ed : this is one of good things about the room also
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : agreed
[12:24 pm] elisha  : thanks joey
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : elisha: right now i have 6 scans up..i use 1 mainly, but if i see the same symbol hit 2 or 3..then i get very interested
[12:25 pm] Ed : we have folks with all types of scans, news feeds, that give great input and thats big help for traders
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : right Ed, its like having dozens of sets of eyes
[12:26 pm] elisha  : whats the symbol for visine?
[12:27 pm] Ed : taco trade the news is another i use
[12:28 pm] regatta  : elisha, try EYE :)
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : technically it is JNJ  :)
[12:28 pm] taco  : cool thanks ed
[12:28 pm] elisha  : '')
[12:28 pm] Ed : another great source and is usaully 350 and up
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : my prob with news sometimes is that by the time i read the story, stock move is over haha
[12:29 pm] Ed : lol
[12:29 pm] Ed : true joey
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : thats actually what got me into pre-market gaps
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : didnt have to read news, gap told me where $ was going in/out
[12:30 pm] Ed : right like today
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : but it does help to at least get a quick headline on gaps
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : like FSLR last jan/feb on earnings
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : gapped down on good earnings, made no sense, but made a great long that day
[12:32 pm] joeytsa  : got 17 or 18pts on that trade in about an hour or so
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : /ES range 1449-1451
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : break below 1449 should get at least 1pt maybe more if it loses R2 support
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : break higher at least the same?
[12:41 pm] taco  : nice
[12:43 pm] joeytsa  : /YM made a nice quick one on that higher low
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : lightning signal on /YM was as 13277
[12:48 pm] apple  : back
[12:49 pm] joeytsa  : DDS losing $81, getting late, will keep eye on this level tomorrow
[12:53 pm] joeytsa  : nice jump on /ES
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : i like those easy ones, most arent
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, everyone...have a great day, see you all tomorrow
[12:56 pm] taco  : c ya joey
[12:56 pm] apple  : bye joey have fun
[12:56 pm] joeytsa  : taco: did you get that /ES trade?
[12:57 pm] taco  : no watching tho
[12:57 pm] taco  : i like seeing the new approach
[12:57 pm] taco  : for me
[12:57 pm] elisha  : bye joey
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : its just something i look at when trading in a tight range
[01:00 pm] apple  : thx MK, E and everyone.  all have a wonderful evening
[01:00 pm] taco  : s/ES 1457 sim
[01:00 pm] elisha  : GN everyone and thanks
[01:02 pm] taco  : thanks Mitch, Ed and everyone see you tomorrow

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